Bring back MASTER LOOT

Pretty hard to kill bosses when everyone has left your guild but best of luck to you :+1:

This is my favorite argument. Like every GM in the game just holds 20 other people hostage and won’t let them leave. Or abusive guilds were so rampant that there was nowhere for anyone to go.

Meanwhile those of us who actually raided in Legion with master loot never had any issues somehow.

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“Bruh”
 what are you talking about? Sounds like you have options and you’re just pouting as you don’t want to make any effort.

I’m annoyed because you’re pouting has removed choice from the game.

Congrats for that.

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Who the heck wants to make effort in a video game, dude? You play a DH. Your class takes no effort at all. Every player in this game takes the path of least resistance. If Mythic raid gear dropped in M0 would you do it instead of a Mythic raid? Of course you would.

That’s what I’m talking about with Master Loot. There are people who exploit. I’ve exploited, you’ve exploited. Every player has exploited it. You know why? Easy loot, easy control, and little to no repercussions.

What you Mythic raiders don’t understand is that the average player has to deal with these people on a daily basis. It’s not as easy as snap my fingers and Master Loot isn’t exploitable at any time in the raid.

Not only that, dude. But, people would rather push content without getting any of the gear they deserve in hope that they can actually join a guild that will reward them.

I think everyone? A game that takes no effort isn’t worth playing.

It did for all of Legion and most of BFA. Some people who never did mythic outside of the free bosses outgeared mythic raiders with CE by just doing M+.

Sounds like you are trying to justify your crummy behavior by saying “everyone did it.” In fact, no, everyone did not do it. Thousands of guilds used the system with zero abuse for years.

What? Nobody does this in the current game.

Have you exploited master loot since you’ve played in BC? Pretty sure you have at one point.

Yeah, current game where PL is the only loot system.

Nope, I’ve never abused master loot. I was really worried about my server reputation back in the day, and didn’t want to give my guild a bad name.

Nobody did it in Legion is what I meant.

I hardly doubt that. No new player is concerned about making their server look good especially when servers weren’t merged to play with others. As for guilds, sure. You’ve exploited Master Loot at one point another.

You sure about that. Maybe because PL was a thing then, and most guilds still used it.

Of course. Gear doesn’t matter to me. The fun is in killing the bosses that are hard. Players who don’t raid ce don’t seem to understand that for some reason.

You might have but I never have. Speak for yourself only please.
Again the difference between myself and you is that I honestly don’t care about the gear I have. I spend the start of every tier trying to give away all my gear to dps players since I’m a healer. [quote=“GĂ«ne-stormrage, post:666, topic:600470”]
What you Mythic raiders don’t understand is that the average player has to deal with these people on a daily basis. It’s not as easy as snap my fingers and Master Loot isn’t exploitable at any time in the raid.
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And what non mythic raiders don’t seem to understand is that in Mythic it is different. I’ll let you worry about your own community of players who want to exploit it and keep raiding mythic where its not a problem.
Says much more about your side of the fence than mine.

What even is this sentence? Do you know what you’re talking about?

Then if they gave the choice back and you didn’t want to use ml you can join one of them instead of a ml guild. Crisis averted.

What’s fun about wiping on a boss 300 times because we couldn’t kick the Guild Leader’s GF out of the raid earlier because she couldn’t pull her weight. I’ve experience mythic raiding. I know what it’s like, so please stop telling me I’ve never mythic raided.

Yeah, I do. You got more problems to worry about than your server.

Clearing the first 3-4 bosses of a raid after you vastly overgear it isn’t mythic raiding. Sorry.

Since when did anyone care about their server? Are you making this up? Is it a bad meme, I honestly don’t know what you’re going for.

Hand of A’dal, Wotlk Heroic raids, Cutting Edge Emerald Nightmare. Please, stop.

You worry about your own fun and ill worry about mine.
If i don’t want to wipe and the gms gf is ruining my fun I will leave. Its pretty simple to do type /gquit and done.

You just said this four posts ago, wat.

Not mythic raiding.

Not Mythic raiding

Easiest CE ever since you could do it in Trial gear and season 2 M+ gear.

I said MY server reputation, as in my reputation on my server. Not my servers reputation to other servers, that’s not ever been a thing, ever.

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Aight, i’mma join a mythic raiding guild. i’ll be back later.

You should. Then you’ll get an idea of the time and effort it takes to start and maintain these guilds. And why nobody would be willing to risk throwing away all that time spent on a piece of loot.