Sorry, just jumped onto your post. 
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I want them back as well but if thatâs the sole reason your friends are going to return or quit then this doesnât sound like the game for them anyway.
Like what happens if they brought them back? Your friend gets them and then⌠quits again?
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I feel like those players accomplishments are none of my business. Bring back discontinued cosmetics plz
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My relatives have this problem as well. Itâs a more underlying one which boils down to âlow quality transmogsâ. Either the textures look cheap, the item is unavailable or too hard to get.
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Fair enough. The mage tower weapons are some of the best in the game but all the other legion appearances are still obtainable in addition to a massive amount of weapons from other xpacs. There is still a ton of really good looking stuff out there.
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Yes. But most of those items donât fit regular sets you wear. I just tried to find a suitable stuff for my mistweaver panda monk before from one of the MoP raids - and look there, the most suitable weapons are artifact weapons.
Looking through the regular weapons from the expansion is either total hits or misses with nothing in-between.
Yeah but surely the other mistweaver appearances can fit your mog right? Like the mage tower one is cool but the other ones are just as awesome with the same color schemes.
You can go back and get 99% of this game whenever you want. Itâs okay that thereâs trophies for people who like to chase down time sensitive content. Just because you donât like it doesnât mean itâs bad design.
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It depends. The one which goes with the blue magic coloration (instead the Jade green) has only a few staves available, one being a derpy staff with a big blue water ball on it. At the moment Iâm using a regular vendor/green staff because nothing else suits it otherwise.
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I think the issue as a new player is more along the lines of âoh, So they just remove cool stuff from the game like that? Do they have a history of doing this? Oh, wait, itâs common? Yeah no thanks, it looks like they donât care and I wonât waste my timeâ.
Iâve had the displeasure of trying to RAF family members and having to explain that some of the things they read about and wanted werenât obtainable anymore. So I ended up RAFâing myself as a result.
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The ultimate low effort argument is to say your friend quit or will quit. Only when someone lacks both a solid argument and the will to make a stand themselves do you see people make up imaginary friends to try to create weight/leverage they donât have.
Youâve basically already lost when you stoop to that level.
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I definitely get what youâre saying but I think it only applies to a very particular type of player.
Most people I know only care if the game is fun or not. If theyâre having a good time playing then theyâll stay subbed. Sure itâs a disappointment if they want a mog thatâs no longer obtainable but itâs not a deal breaker and there will always be new stuff in the future.
What is so unthinkable of this argument? I know also people who stopped playing because the game either asks too much from you or because itâs unavailable. I also know family members and friends who simply given up to discover older expansions because they realized things are missing or too hard to get.
At some point it backfires if the game takes too much away. Artifact weapons was a big no-no and weâre seeing these topics always coming back because it was a mistake. When do those topics start to vanish? When people become satisfied. Cue to the High Elf topic the past five years.
The gatekeeping has to stop, itâs a game with no actual value but entertainment. Like I said it before, we own nothing in it. And I donât think the right answer here is to say âif you want x, then play on a private server or wait for the return of classic server in the futureâ because this is contra-productive.
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Collectors mainly. Iâm one of those myself and try to stay occupied with other things, but I think the issue is more abrasive with new players who also want to collect than vets like us who got used to it (but still want it to change ;))
My biggest question when contemplating whether to start FF14 was âdo they remove things from the game on a constant basis as well?â The answer is âyes, BUT they bring most of those things back or put them on the shopâ, which was good enough for me. Having gone through that, I understand why my family felt the way they did when it came to WoW.
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Your friends likely wouldnât start playing just because they added a weapon appearance, and if they did, theyâd likely leave again soon after for another fickle reason. They werenât going to play long-term if just not having a mog makes them leave.
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Yeah itâs definitely unfortunate for new players to see something very cool and then find out they canât get it but Iâve always said that the biggest issue with the MT appearances was not that they removed them but that they havenât really added anything of similar quality since then.
If each xpac offered really incredible weapon models then I donât think people would be as upset.
Itâs possible, but removal of items will still leave a bad taste in peopleâs mouth.
Iâm not really sure where Blizz intends on going in the future. It was interesting that they posted the reasoning that they didnât want to diminish player efforts, but in the same event put an unobtainable PvP Elite bow on the timewalking vendor. 
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Wait whatttt. What bow?
Same exact model and color with only a different name.
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That is wild. Kinda crazy they did that