In tbcc.
Which is much harder to get groups in than wotlkc will be.
And no, a lot of them were not guild runs.
Then dont sit in town? World chat, lfg tool, exc, you have options.
Once you chose to make your own group the only one there is no more gatekeeping on you. The only one truely gatekeeping you is yourself.
Worst decision they could have made thinking that the Wrath Classic Population majority wanted it removed, where are all the voices begging for this to be taken out of Wrath?
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I mean Iâm on Benediction and finding a group is staring at LFG/bulletin board and trying to snipe people who are LFM/G before other people do.
Itâs not fun, engaging, or social. Itâs just annoying.
The less you stare at LFG, the more likely you are to wait longer.
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Wotlk heroics are more akin to shattered halls normal. Its only deadly if you are stupid about it.
And the LFG Tool does exactly nothing to fix this since it doesnât even update in real time youâll also have to sit there smashing the refresh button oh yeah and scrolling up and down in the screen since it doesnât put new entries in any specific order.
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exactly why RFD should be implemented. all of these âoptionsâ are consolidated into one tool: RFD.
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Just wait till you get to try the new LFG tool. Itâs actually complete trash the way it is setup atm. Donât worry tho the âcommunityâ is intact and will be firing on all cylinders with this puppy. LOLOL
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LoL just wait until some of the toxic behavior it encourages hits live servers. For example since it doesnât show you class/role when someone applies to your group and you can only have one pending applicant itâs more efficient to just accept then kick.
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Quite likely weâll still need an addon to get groups.
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I do hope they improve the lfg tool, doesnt mean rdf should be in though.
I guess weâll see how much of the API for it gets exposed. As it stands right now thereâs no reason for tanks/healers to not use it since the deficiencies mostly impact DPS. And if all the tanks/healers are using it all the DPS have to as well so LFG BB will be dead.
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this from the guy whose main complaint is about RDF is the vote kick systemâŚ
you definitely werent kicked for poor performance or poor attitude from more than a few groups.
But with how overhwelming gatekeepy half the things you say are, this hot take doesnât surprise me.
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Now i donât agree that it speaks for the entire WoW community as a whole iâm not that ignorant.
But the fact is these data points still do exist and itâs all we have to go off regardless of what anecdotal evidence of âmany players donât xâ argument people want to bring up.
And that data is heavily in favor of having the RDF, so based off how polling and averages are calculated for statistics, having a data point of x % of the playerbase saying they want x feature in game could be relative of the commuity as a whole.
itâs not like when they poll people they poll everyone across a country, they poll x amount of people and work out statistical averages.
That could also be applied here, no?
and thats why vanilla is vanilla and wotlk is wotlk, because both expansions had different design philosophies going into them.
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So, you do realize how easy it is for a single individual to put thosands of votes onto those polls because if how they are set up right?
A random selection poll would give moderatly accurate data. The polls being linked are not that type of poll. They are open vote polls which are âprotectedâ by nothing more than an IP tracker or email tracker. Both of which can be bypassed with moderate ease. Then you add in botting and scripts to that and it gets stupid.
Here is a reference for you to understand just how easy that type of poll is to manipulate
This is why i dont trust those polls data. It would be childâs play for anyone who has beginners experience with basically any scripting/coding program to be able to rig thosands of votes onto those polls. There are even tutorials on how to do this on the internet.
The way the data was collected makes it untrustworthy data at best.
after dailies/calllings doneâŚyes.
at that point there is nothing much else to do.
for those working off retail lfd anecdotesâŚthis is why its done.
callings done leaves one option. ZM. Or Borethia. that place died as soon as ZM dropped.
at this point most have run this. they got their rep to make a custom unity lego. if they lack the rep its becauseâŚzm is trash (to them). I donât go here on alts really. I hated it every night on main to say it was done for story at least.
main got the cheivoâŚand I have never been back since except 1 one alts belt. I really wanted to try the venthyr bag of razors with surging strike combo on a hunter.
Also others donât do this. I use LFD since chances are real good I am not even in SL areas on capped chars. I am fiddling around in legion. mobs still ahve goodies for me there on a class or 2.
soâŚI run out nightallen rep runs to get my exalted for the class order hall shoulders. Spam WQâsâŚget that pop for say necrotic wakeâŚback to legion on exit.
get your quest on, get dungeons as they come. this is the angle some have. /dance by dungeon is not thrilling game play to some.
talking about people commenting not pollsâŚ
the backlash surrounding this.
and even so thats a lot to suggest people went to great and annoying lengths to sway the polls instead of them just being a sample of the communities feelings.
just because something can happen, itâs rarely the case that it did happen.
and even if it is the case and you ignore polls, there was still huge backlash on all the socials
also you donât have to trust it for it to still be an accepted datapoint.
It is what it is, like i said i donât personally consider it to be anything of value, but that doesnât mean it canât hold value.
More people will complain than praise the decision based purely on human behavior. Its why people are more likely to leave a bad review or ask to talk to a manager to complain than they are to praise.
That doesnât mean that bad food is in fact bad.
No, but it does explain the âvocal minorityâ effect. Where even if there is a good portion of bad reviews on something, it doesnt mean that something is bad.
Lots of people are complaining about the rdf not being in wotlkc, but that doesnt mean no rdf is bad nor that the majority do want rdf, it just means that some people who are upset are trying to make their voices heard which can be inflating the apperance of a âmajorityâ being agaist no rdf. Because thats human nature in action.