It’s also never been proven whether or not it’ll hurt our queues.
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How is blacklisting going to help you win Bgs?
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My Epic ratio would be a lot better if I never had to play Wintergrasp again.
I mean, you don’t have to. You can just afk out of it.
Why not? Literally everyone else is. If only those guys who afk’d out had some sort of option to not queue for it. Then maybe we would have people that would stick around for BGs because they enjoy them.
Having a blacklist with only 4 BGs would be bad. It was bad when there were 11-12 BGs.
Bad because Epics and Regulars weren’t separated. So you rarely ever got an Epic BG because everyone was blacklisting them.
Well no, that’s all you’d get as Horde if you didn’t blacklist both. Same would happen with only 4 BGs and one blacklist.
Seems to me that it’s all just speculation and no one can actually prove it.
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It’s carried over from when blacklisting was around. Safe to assume if the majority blacklisted Ashran or WG (I’m guessing those two would be high on the list) then those who didn’t blacklist them would get those the majority of the time. Also has a bad effect on healer balance, not that it’s that great, but it could get worse.
But when blacklisting was around we had 2 BGs that took 4 times as long as others. It was wildly inconsistent. Plus, if you blacklisted the two epic BGs your queues even decreased.
Yep and that’s why blacklisting is faulty. It went from being able to choose not to do certain Bgs you actually disliked to being forced to blacklist them for shorter queue times on one faction and randomness in another.
But again, it hasn’t been done since the Epics and Randoms were separated. So saying “No because it’ll increase queues” holds about as much water as saying “Mercing increases queue times”
Well if you don’t see the problems of people being able to blacklist 25% of a BG queue, idk what to tell you. Maybe they could try 1 in the normal BG queue that holds 11 (?) BGs and go from there. And yes, mercing could slightly increase queue times for the lower faction. I’d bet Alliance would have near instant queues instead of 1-2 minutes.
I’ve been searching through reddit and this sub for the past several days, and aside from you (literally for the past 2 years over and over again) and a handful of others saying it would increase queue times no one has actually given any proof. Or even tried to break it down mathematically.
So Alliance having decreased queue times isn’t proof that blacklisting has an effect on queues? And I get it, that’s before they separated normal and epics, but that was also when we had something like 12 BGs in the queue.
No. Not at all. Everyone will still be queueing. In fact i’d argue that MORE people would queue if they could select one to never play again. Currently I only queue Epics when I have a quest because I absolutely despise Wintergrasp. If I could black list it then I would queue epics again along side regulars.
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The epic BG is a pretty small community and they already have a tough time matching heals. This would just make it worse. Like I said, they could test it out on the regular BGs first and see how that goes.
It’s interesting to me that the pro-blacklist club wants proof it would increase queue times but can’t provide proof to substantiate their claim that it won’t increase them, either.
The only things we know for sure are only 20% of a much more substantial queuing playerbase utilized the blacklist feature. Even with that minority, battlegrounds and players suffered with queues, repetitive pops, poor gameplay. The feature was removed.
The game is smaller now. The same problems would appear again.
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Gone for a reason
Suggest an alternative system