Both alliance and horde want the ability to premade again. BRING THEM BACK! Sign this thread and keep it at the top. We want to be able to play as we see fit. Let both sides premade just like any other BG. This is a 40 man bg just like 40 man raiding it shouldnt be limited to just pugs.
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I fixed that for ya.
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What horde wants to go back to the alliance AV premade meta hell?
I’d be ok with it if both sides could do it but with just allies again? NOPE.
The only way premades should be allowed is if there was a way to ONLY face premades with your premade option.
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Absolutely! I think the premade issue would at least be balanced …perfect Idea
Allowing full premades with separate queues would result in premade win trading. Fast queues and fast games for max honor.
That would be the new meta, killing wsg and ab.
Pugs would be screwed and not able to climb rank.
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That’s assuming they always queue into each other
But they will queue into each other.
They will be on discord to ensure they are facing each other.
Win trading AV was a thing in Vanilla and will be again in Classic.
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What horde premade is going to lose on purpose waiting in queue for an hour+?
If premades have their own queue, they can queue faster against each other.
They won’t have long queues because they are win trading. That’s the point.
You work with your opponent to maximize honor per hour.
Losing on purpose is the point of win trading because your opponent will throw the next game.
There are more horde than Alliance when it comes to PvP. The queues will not be equal
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You don’t understand how win trading works.
You don’t understand how queues work
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If premades always face premades the queue times for premades will be very low because they are coordinating the queues to win trade.
The queue times for pugs will still be high.
You don’t understand how win trading shortens queue times for horde and alliance teams coordinating their queues.
This was a thing in Vanilla.
I’m fine with full premades because it will be more efficient to grind honor over pugging.
I’m not saying Blizz shouldn’t allow it. I’m just pointing out that full premades screw over pugs which is fine with me. It won’t solve the problem pugs aren’t having and will make it worse.
So yes, I support premade vs premade.
Still more horde than alliance queuing up. The queues will not be equal
Still more horde than alliance queuing up. The queues will not be equal
Vanilla this was a thing for about 3 months when they finally made PvP cross server. After those 3 months the honor system was revamped.
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I support premade only av queues so I can win trade with alliance teams in discord.
You’re a coward
Premade V Premade / Pug V Pug in all BG’s.
Of course you want AV premades. It’s the only way you can win. 
Alliance premades ruined AV for their own faction. I Think we should do away with all premades.
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