In terms of M+ how does Brewmaster compare to Prot Warrior? I have some knowledge of how tanking on a Warrior goes but slim to none playing as Brew. I just know keep up stagger and keep up the rotation.
I haven’t really focused on tanking in a long time as this season and last I mostly just went heals.
Thanks!
I am considering Killing (deleting ) my brewmaster he stinks so bad, go with prot warrior.
Brewmaster class is dead to me now.
Well, both of them have some very limiting faults.
I’m sorry but I stopped playing Brewmaster. Its horrible. That spec of the Monk Class is just downright BAD. Now do get me wrong though. When the planets align, which is incredibly rare for Brewmaster, it’s a damage sponge like its supposed to be, but those instances are so few. The problem with Brewmaster for me is the prep it takes to get everything rolling to put yourself in a position to be “lucky” when the planets finally do align, and the payoff is, well, boring.
Now Prot Warrior is pretty darn good. I feel it’s in a pretty darn good spot right now. Its fundamentals make it a blast to play. Its, in my opinion, the best tank spec right now. Its not a spec that takes forever to ramp. Its also not a spec that is purely reactionary. It’s fundamentals allow for it to be played in almost any scenario.
The way most tanks are right now, I’d have to say Prot Warriors are the most fun tank spec to play. Very interactive. Brewmasters need some serious attention to even be considered a “True” tank spec. All in all, and truth be told, they aren’t even comparable right now. Prot Warrior, hands down, is the clear winner right now.
BrM has been a staple raid tank for years. WTF are you smoking?
The post wasn’t about Raid tanking though is it? It’s about a comparison between Prot Warriors and Brewmaster. So what are you smoking?
Your post was whining about BrM not being good. Ignoring that BrM has been one of the best raid tanks for years is demonstrably false, and just plain dumb.
With the changes to BrM since prepatch I can honestly say my monk is a better tank than my warrior as far as survivability goes but does less AoE damage. I see it as a bit of a trade off, I would say that I personally am enjoying BrM more than Prot currently.
It might be a side effect that basically nothing huge changed for prot except that you now heal off rend as well and that last stand is built into shield wall now, whereas brew got a lot of major talent updates that change up how you mitigate damage / heals which are making it more exciting for me.
Brew vs war breakdown:
What is causing you to feel brew is bad?
I am not sure what planet you are on right now but brewmaster is top m+ in midnight both in tankyness and second in damage output. Currently I would say in prepatch its definitely top in tankyness we are just unkillable.
And what planets are you talking about aligning for things to happen would like some actual examples instead of word salad.
Tldr monk going into midnight is just going to be the better play numerically across all pve content
Would love to know what you actually mean by this
There I fixed that for you. Based on what OP said I doubt he’s planning on pushing CE on his tank.
This last season we had both prot warrior and brewmaster did very well. Prot warrior isn’t changing much come midnight but they did get a ranged silence which is nice. At the start of a season prot warrior tends to be really nice because our secondary stats are low and shield block does a lot of work in season 1.
But there have been a lot of great changes to brewmaster and they’re feeling a lot strong now.
Looking at warcraft logs from the beta there are lots of prot warriors and brewmasters timing +20 keys. So I’d say both are in a solid spot. Though more tuning can happen before the midnight release to change that.
My suggestion for people looking to tank is to play the one that you like the theme and enjoy playing the most.
I’m going to assume you fail to grasp the idiocy in this “fix” …
BrM is one of the best tanks in the most difficult content, and you’re trying to insinuate that’s a negative… The amount of pure dumb that gets posted on these forums is astounding.
When was brewmaster meta in m+?
It’s clunky and unintuitive. Also people will always appreciate a tank that brings more utility.
When you dps or heal a prot paladin, prot war, or dh, you can find a bit of comfort in knowing at least every once in a while they have an “Oh shoot” button to lock down kicks or threat, not brew master. Lord no. From the perspective of being a brew master it’s like yea you can live without that and you can time keys, but also you don’t have to so why would you? Only answer is for fun. If it’s not fun don’t bother. There’s no advantage or hidden reason to pick it up.
Not only do I agree with you completely, but I love your name. That’s my favorite book series of all time! Shoutout to Flint Fireforge and his grumpy stubbornness.
When is the last time you played it? Since the pruning it’s really not clunky at all, so I’m not sure what you mean. They also bring 5% increased physical damage to mobs, ring of peace, leg sweep, a poison/disease cleanse, and an incapacitate button that takes care of enraged enemies. They also have a speed boost that can be cast on allies. How much utility do you want? Also, they get an “oh shoot” button that’s only on a 45 second cooldown and is a brew so it really ends up being like a 15 second cooldown (Celestial Brew), plus they have Fortifying Brew for “oh shoot” moments that don’t happen because Brewmasters have stagger. I can’t say I agree with your criticisms. I’m switching to Brew for Midnight because of how good they are.
Bfa was the last time it was considered true meta. However in the season 2 and 3 monk was doing some of the highest keys but since it was not popular it was not meta. That’s looking to change come midnight and every tank streamer etc is healing brew to be meta if it goes live
Meta is an acronym for “most effective tactic available” and has nothing to do with popularity. People conflate the two all the time in modern gaming, but if it were based on popularity then the term meta wouldn’t need to exist because the word popular already exists.
My point was direct at someone referring to how often brewmaster is brought to raid as opposed to OP’s question about m+. But thanks for the info. I only picked up BrM in shadow lands myself.