Is it just me or do healers not enjoy healing brewmaster monks?? idk maybe it’s just me but I always see healers frowning when I get invited into there groups… i had someone outright tell me that I’m taking way too much dmg for a tank, am I doing something wrong?
Nah fam. I’ve had the opposite. Especially this week with our ability to slam massive threat(dbl keg/bof) and roll away to let necrotic drop.
I also play a lot of healers and I notice that a lot of Brews will just try and stand there trading blow for blow instead of using our amazing mobility and utility(trip and ring).
Brew needs to kite and heal up when stagger starts stacking super high.
Even if we weren’t smack in the middle of a kite meta we’re no Warrior with shield block, we should always playing to our strengths.
Do you happen to know what stat priority brew should focus on? and it says on icyveins that brew monks are the worst tanks this season other than blood dk… ik i shouldn’t rely on those statistics but is there some truth to it?
Someone’s opinion of listing Brewmaster as “B-tier” (whatever that means) on IcyVeins is just that … an opinion. I wouldn’t worry about it. It’s a fine tank choice.
As for questions like stat priority, rotation, etc., I would suggest looking at the Peak of Serenity website and joining their Discord channel. 
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Vers + mastery will make you take less damage but vers + crit will have you diong the most damage. Crit is also better for ‘sustain healers’ in comparison to burst healer.
Brewmaster is not very tanky. But you will see a handful of brewmaster’s do high keys because you can do decent ranged threat and kite.
I had lots of healers telling me I’m easy to heal.
Like someone said, we have to use our utility properly. Using your stun at the right moments helps a lot. Ring of Peace is a god send - the more experienced you get, the more you will use it.
The stagger mechanic helps the healers a lot by making our damage intake more predictable. And as someone who also heals, this is big.
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On the contrary. As a MW my fav tank to heal is a Brewmaster, as long as they know how to mitigate correctly. They have lower health pools than other tanks and our hots, soothing, and vivify brings the tank back up rather quickly. So we don’t have to tank sit as much. Trying to bring a DK up from 30 percent health is a challenge. lol.
I heal - I’ll chime in with my 2p.
Some healers might not feel that their class or skill synergizes well with a brewmaster - I’m like that with Death knights, they’re my least fav to heal because I tend to waste a lot of mana when they’ll just death strike the damage away.
A skilled player, or one that knows their class, can be a fantastic tank over the FotM reroller. I wouldn’t let the comment about damage get you down - but looking at your logs may help improve (if you log that is). Make sure to use your utilities and for the love of all that’s holy, don’t LoS or outrange your healer when kiting, if at all possible.
General tier listings are kind of meh. I think it gives such a bad impression of tanks when they’re all just fine for weeks when you are actually going to push for KSM or whatever your goals are and makes things look worse than they usually are a lot of times.
Vengeance is undeniably the best M+ tank and at that point nothing else is “S tier” because nothing else is comparable 1:1. Every affix combination currently is not much of a challenge for them.
Brewmaster on the other hand is good for the majority of them especially the ones where tanks can be self sufficient through mobility or defensives like Grievous, Necrotic, Bursting or when there is big incoming tank damage like bolstering or inspiring just because of how Brewmaster works in addition to some advantages like Diffuse Magic working vs bursting and things like zen med, etc. More importantly though they are good for every single push week so the tier rating is kind of a non issue.
In those same keys you’ll see Guardian Druid doing just as well usually especially outshining others for raging and sanguine where they’re utility really comes into play, but more importantly are good for every push week as well.
For any other week where its just Fort/Tyrannical + trivial affixes that you can just blast through, Prot/BDK do just as well, which is why I think tier lists are kind of wasted since your just comparing who the best-worst tanks are for the weeks that nobody wants to tank.
Nobody wants to push keys during Necrotic+Bolstering and keys during Bursting+Explosive are just not a lot of fun.
I’m pretty sure the only push week where all of the tanks can not be considered “good” is bursting+sanguine where Prot Warrior struggles because they can’t mob easily or ignore bursting.
I haven’t paid much attention lately but usually you’ll find that on the monk forum and other class forums a trend of posts like “Why are BrM so hard to heal”.
Since you can’t always expect them to be at 100% health + requiring a little more active healing at times I think it just creates an usual experience for healers that are either newer or new to having a monk tank frequently in their groups.
If your playing a little worse than you could be and they’re playing a little worse than they could be its just a tank-healer mix might feel worse than healing something else that can compensate for gameplay with less effort / attention.
or when you cast any heal and they death strike the moment you finish your cast
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Screaming It’s the most frustrating thing! Purgatory makes me panic because half the darn time it seems it doesn’t save them at all.
Death Knights are the biggest trap for me as a shaman because you think your about to get a fat mastery heal bonus on the 20% health DK and then suddenly the initial target of your chain heal is 100% overheal. The new necrolord armor ghost when a tank takes fatal damage is the same way… you just pump a giant heal into a target immune to healing. 
You can’t win.
Purgatory for me is 50/50. There are definitely times when its just doomed. It feels a lot better in raids where I’d rather see other cheat deaths in dungeons but something is better than nothing.
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The things I’ve heard as feedback from healers that are negative:
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You’re spiking your stagger, so they dont know what heal to use I.e. you’re low, low, low MASSIVE HEAVY STAGGER MAX, and then you’re waiting for a pure charge. This is usually caused by accidentally hitting your initial pure twice. It happens. We all been there with sweaty fingeys.
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You’re a bit too fast and are kiting out of range. This will annoy a lot of healers who aren’t used to super mobile tanks. They want to stand there are pump heals into a facetank, but that’s not how we roll. Or chi torpedo. Or tiger’s lust.
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This is all news to me. Last I checked, brewmasters were the second highest tank representation-wise in mythic+. Brews were a distant second and almost tied with guardian druids.
If I have any problems with any particular healers, it’s priests. I don’t know why. I seem to do really well with shaman and mistweavers.
On another note, are we especially good on necrotic when we have high mastery? I hear a lot of complaining this week about it being a bad week to push, but I’m having a much easier time this week than the last two.
Brewmasters who are comfy with their kit take very little damage, and most often just need a HoT and occasional vivify from me. Actively purifying even if the stagger is low is rather important since it builds your Celestial to be beefier.
Brewmasters who aren’t quite as comfy in their kit tend to take an astronomical amount of damage. I typically don’t say anything in party since they’re probably learning, but it can be very stressful.
Make sure you’re not holding onto cooldowns for bosses on weeks that aren’t Tyrannical (even on weeks that are, trash usually takes long enough to use it during). And focus on building your celestial shield up during its cooldown.
I think the issue with priests, is they have a hard time reading our celestial bubble, especially combined with PWS and other minor absorbs. Unless you have a custom ui, the visuals for shielding are rather garbage. If you’re at max health, you can’t really even see the shield on your health bar. And there is no differential in the shielding bar between celestial which is a huge absorb that lasts 8 seconds, and pws, which is a smaller shield that lasts longer.
But yeah, I struggle with priests, both disc and holy. Much prefer shaman or pally.
Druid was better synergy in bfa, they need a bit more juice to those hots.
Mistweaver is mistweaver. Powerful pump, but mana issues. Clunky utility / Oshi buttons.
Lot of healers are crap. when you see a healer trying to 15+ with 3k HPS something is wrong and it’s sad when they try to blame you when there “casting” lava burst.
I was having issues with healers with i had less than 50k health. Healers would leave my group and tell me i never seen a tank health bar so low. After i hit 50k it stopped. I was also pushing 15’s with around 45k health.
Don’t let hard hitting adds keep hitting you when your shield is down. Kite or ROP.
I stack Vers/Crit as a deathlord for the shields which is amazing on grieves weeks . I just ignore grieves and necrotic as a Dark Iron. If a healer just hit his heal button i am easy to heal. I was pulling around 5+ packs in 15’s with ease. Better then my paladin who is higher Ilvl. but she does more damage and that is the trade
As a resto druid main, yes. When I join any content and I see the tank is a monk I sigh. I genuinely hate healing Brewmasters.
I think it is because of how different tanking with them is and many people (myself included, which is why I came to this forum section to ask questions) simply don’t get how to do it properly and the healer has to work really hard to keep them alive.
There are really great monk tanks out there, I’ve ran content with some who are A+, but the thing is for each good monk tank we have to heal, we end up suffering through healing 10 really bad ones.
My healer always tells me how easy I am to keep up :o
I don’t see enough brewmasters to comment from the other side though…
Depends on how good the tank is, also their abilities, some tanks are better at taking heavier hits, but others dont, which are forced to kite, Brewmaster is more on the kiting side