Noooooooooooooooo!
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Iâm sure the programs youâve developed are always completely bug free amirite? Oh wait⌠pretty sure you rarely leave the basementâŚ
Yea⌠its 100000% thisâŚ
Missing: An actual response to the point made.
Just because youâre not savvy enough to figure it out doesnât mean itâs not there.
But sure, Iâll break it down real slowly for youâŚ
Your âpointâ such as it exists, seems to be that the evidence of bugs indicates that Blizzard is a terribly inept company who is incapable of fixing anything.
So my counterpoint was that⌠by that statement you out yourself as naive, if not entirely ignorant. Because bugs are an inevitable part of the ANY process and its widely accepted that beta testing, with a more varied and less biased group than your internal testers, is an effective, if still imperfect, method to root out the last few bugs that may have been otherwise missed.
Understand or am I gonna have to break out the sock puppets? Iâd really rather not, its laundry dayâŚ
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Youâre still completely avoiding the reality of the situation pre-ptr: straight up impossible boss fights. Which suggests that Blizzard didnât even bother trying to answer the most basic question about said boss fights: Can they be completed? That is the absolute bare minimum when is comes to testing. The bugs Iâm referring to, Câthun spawning untargetable tentacles in his stomach, Kaelâthas building aggro on all of his phases on the healers, and thus killing all of them as soon as he activates arenât exactly difficult to notice if one had bothered try the fights as the actual players would.
Iâm not suggesting that public testing is a bad thing. It certainly improved WoWâs Day 1 raids after it was implemented. But to suggest that the gamebreaking bugs present prior to said public testing are somehow par for the course in the industry is absurd. There are plenty of companies that can and do test rigorously prior to releasing their content and avoid the previously mentioned situations.
They allow so few on the beta so it can tested while not having it spoiled for everyone. Beta is only for big name streamers. Yes itâs free advertising, but off stream it is being stress tested for bugs, I can assure you that.
I have no desire to ever beta another game so I did not sign up. Does that count as boycotting? 
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Sure. Because Blizzard has a team of world-1st caliber raiders on staff ready to test all this content for themâŚ
While this is true, there are also plenty of game companies that I donât think I need to name that put out absolutely broken games and expect their fans to fix it for them or just âdeal with itâ. In comparison to some of the other game companies out there, Blizzard is still one of the better ones.
Yeah! Boycott the b⌠Whatâs this? HACKER VOICE Iâm in! cya suckers!
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Zackrawr is upset with all this!
Why do I think that Amazatank has NO CLUE about Blizzardâs activities and âwhy they needâ anything? Why should I âboycottâ something because of Amazatankâs uninformed guess?
Because thatâs impossible. I know that (Iâve been a software engineer) and you donât. And I canât teach you with a few words. But hereâs a try:
They DO test everything they know about. But they are humans, not magical gods with infinite powers. They donât think of every combination of actions. WoW is so free-form that customers do countless combinations of things that no-one at Blizzardâs test department thought of.
Players do things no-one thought of. Players use features in ways that they werenât designed for.
So you can have no beta, and release it, and then work on the hundreds of bugs that players find. Or you can have a beta, and hope that players find (and report) these bugs. Then you can fix more of them, sooner.
Iâm the same. I was in one WoW beta. Nothing worked right, AND there was no priority to fix things ASAP for us testers.
I learned that beta is not âearly accessâ to a working game. It is early access to a mess. I quickly got tired of testing a mess, though I did report any problems I found.
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Boycott is dumb, but even if I got a Beta invite I wouldnât play it.
- I hate lvling
- I donât work for free.
- If testing came with free game time maybeâŚbut it would have to amount to $15/hr in comp play time.
To be honest I am the same as well. I did not sign up for SL beta because not wanting to spoil things.
I do want in TBC beta to work on my addon and develop a couple other ideas before launch.
I will do testing as well but stick to zones and areas I know might be issues to test. I do NOT want to burn out in beta.
Here on the forums?
The ported TBC to the legion engine like they ported classic to the legion engine.
Its gonna have broken stuff that needs tested, and the best way to test a video game is put it in the hands of real players and let them try and break it.
how can i boycott the beta if i didnât get in
TBC has been on the Legion engine since⌠well, Legion.
Classic had to be completely rebuilt because the entire world was changed in Cataclysm. But TBC with all its quests etc have been there since 2007.
Sure, they have to add/remove some character abilities, fix professions etc, but overall this should have been a much much easier process for Blizz than putting vanilla content on the Legion engine.
Agreed, and I hope theyâve done well and when ready, I hope we get a good product. (Please blizz donât screw this up!)