Boxxing is pay to win

Economy of scale doesn’t apply to multi-boxing.

It is not an exponential benefit.

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Well thanks for this, not the same topic I was going back and forth with Adrot but nothing more needs to be said to him after this reply. Good work and well done!

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This is one of the topics that I’m not even interested in arguing because it’s not even a question that multiboxing is p2w and shouldn’t be allowed. Anyone arguing for multiboxing just isn’t worth arguing with.

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Such a mature response.

Screaming at the sky “IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH ME I WONT TALK TO TOU” Is always such an amazing way to start a conversation.

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Such a compelling argument. I’m sure you’ll change Blizard’s mind on this any decade now.

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But I’m not, and that’s a lie. I wasn’t attacking anyone. I responded to you calling someone else a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist. But if you want to attack people, that makes you fair game.

So responding to you at all is me crying?

No man, I just think it makes you sound like an idiot if you want to call me little buddy. What are you trying to gain? To make me mad? I mean, sorry, but if you start losing an argument and then don’t want to respond… and instead want to call me little buddy, it’s pretty easy to see you don’t have a response so you just want to make some silly personal attacks. Call me w/e you want, doesn’t make anything you say more useful or valid.

No one here is crying. If you don’t want people to respond to you, then just stop posting.

The only thing weird here is you.

Looks like some of disagree with you.

Thanks! I did minor in econ and am now a business analyst. Analytics are my thing.

No.

Economy of scale refers to levels of efficiency. Inputting so much time/labor and ever increasing production/output/product/etc.

In this instance, we have the input of a single player playing multiple accounts. The same amount of time is input, but the return is magnitudes higher. The reason is, once you get past the operating costs, the return is potential massive. It’s not like these players need to divide the income up, they can and are funneling it into a single toon.

So, there is where understanding comes in… about the game.

RNG is a huge factor in wow. The more toons you play in any given setting increases your chances of getting loot. BOE mounts and world BOE drops are some of the big ones and it’s one of the thing many multi-boxxers farm. In some cases having as many as 16 toons on a single spot. It happened a lot in legion on the broken shore.

This allowed all the groups to tag multiple mobs and increase their chances of getting a BOE. That’s the difference. It’s not like you have a single player rolling the dice each time. You have 10 to 16 toons rolling the dice which dramatically increases your chances of having a successful roll.

Congrats. Maybe try applying that correctly here.

Doesn’t need to have exponential growth.

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This isn’t a topic unbiased people with at least average reasoning skills disagree on. Its a really simple topic that multiboxers convolute in an attempt to squirm their way out of not having an argument.

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I would agree you definitely are not mature enough to have an adult discussion. Move along and see if you can find a safe space on these forums. Best of luck to you.

The discussion isn’t if multiboxxing is bad or not I could care less. The point is wow is not p2w. But you want to scream at the sky at anyone who may appear to have a different opinion. Good luck with that.

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Fixed that for you.

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the best part about these threads is the same people defending it every time. New people make new posts and the same talking heads show up. Funny how that works.

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Yeah, every account is equal. So, again not pay to win.

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The fact is, multiboxing is cheating. Third party key cloning interacting with the game is another form of “hacking”. Power, gold and items multiplied. The verdict is always guilty!

People defending it looking for excuses and spouts nonsense. They will not admit its cheating. You see it anywhere including other games when someone hits them. Its old news. You can just ignore them.

Eventually WoW will turn into World of Multiboxing when Blizzard continues to ignore it. It is increasing. Spreading like a virus. It is normal when some player got hit by it and “You wanna cheat? I do it too”

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Yes it does.
Economy of scales means as you expand, the cost becomes less. That’s not the case with multi-boxer. The benefit of adding a second account is no different than the benefit of adding a 100th account.

that is completely impossible as i have never multiboxed.

as for the guild, yeah the leader has a theme for naming his toons. not a boxxer.

havent seen one in guild but it could be possible.

lastly, i wont be hiding my profile.

this completely BS character assassination attempt is a new low from the boxxer community though!

oh really, Holyboxx is just an alt guys. no boxxer here. I saw them all, you missed one.

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This is not actually a fact. Rhythalia is spreading misinformation.

Yet another example of anti-multiboxers redefining words to mean whatever.

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It’s not though at it’s base. First, you said an exponential benefit. Economics of scale doesn’t assert that you have and always maintain continuous growth and especially not exponential growth. There are limits. At some point some area within that production is going to be a bottle neck.

But lets boil it down. At it’s base, it’s increasing efficiencies with an increase in size, which we absolutely see with multiboxxing. In the end, we have the same level of input, which is flat, and ever increasing gains as we add additional cogs. Since the cost of input stays the same, yet the return increases, we are gaining increased levels of efficiencies. But it’s more then that…

Adding 1 additional ‘toon’ versus the 100th isn’t the same. Wow functions on an RNG based system and for any given task you only have so many tries. So with the addition of more rolls, you’re odds continue to increase. Given that you have a fixed amount of opportunities to roll the dice, the more rolls you have at each chance increases your odds of winning.

This is especially important relative to BOE farming.

For each additional toon you add, you’re odds aren’t staying flat, they are always increasing. So just going off your last comment, the benefit of adding the second versus the 100th isn’t the same.

Wrong it is not key cloning. Stop speaking about things you don’t understand.

The single key press is accepted by all windows. This is done with a standard Windows API.

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When I say a opinion it is always a fact :laughing: Here’s some :cheese: to go with that :wine_glass:

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We don’t see increased efficiencies though.
6 players coordinating for the same amount of time will yield the same results as one person playing 6 characters for the same amount of time.

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