Calling me arm chair thats cute coming from mr fake news of wow forums. Keep spreading your conspiracy theories on all these world 1st p2w guilds that nobody really cares about and your other weird awkward crusades. Enjoy little buddy.
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There are no theories. The GM came out and said they bought gold. The GM. What more do you want? Nobody cares about? Clearly there is a lot of money to be made and clearly someone cares.
Talk about pathetic. Giving you actual facts and you want to talk like its a theory. How arrogant and pathetic do you have to be to just not admit youâre wrong here? Over something so⌠trivial. You do you I guess.
Their last 7 videos over the last ten days has a total of 1000 views. Yep totally top rated everyone cares about them twitch type of views.
Iâm not wrong wow is not p2w.
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Multiboxers have also been providing verifiable facts, straight from Blizzard. And look how easily those get dismissed in these threads.
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You are seriously going to argue this? Really? Look man, lots of people obviously care about it. There is lots of money to be made being the number one guild in the world. These are full time jobs for people. Thatâs why they paid all that money to buy all that gold. Itâs big business and a small investment to the return they get from having the prestige.
Whether you care about it or not, doesnât matter. Lots of people enjoy those world first races.
And I donât care if you think youâre not wrong. These guys paid to win and lost because of it. They used actually money to gain an advantage which is the very definition of pay to win.
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And that has what to do with me? I didnât argue otherwise.
The guy is arguing that itâs a theory these guilds bought gold⌠The GMâs for those guilds came forward and said they bought gold for the purpose of winning the race for world first. This is beyond the point of ridiculous. At some point there has to be some concessions in the discussion. When given actual facts from the people who did it⌠if thatâs not enough, then itâs basically amounts to nothing more than trolling.
I recognize this person from the multiboxing community
This person was banned from a multiboxing website for asking questions about how to bot and other automated cheats. This person is going on a personal vendetta against multiboxing because they were banned.
Look at their guild profile and you will see they have multiboxers in the guild âClinicalâ.
quick look before they hide profile. Over 30 characters with similar names.
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Thatâs the thing what you are saying is evidence WoW is NOT p2w. In order for a game to be p2w the game itself has to have the systems in place to facilitate that transaction that gives you an advantage that other cannot get.
What did they win that other players can never get btw? A mount? Nope. Title? Nope oh come on what did they win that makes it p2w? Nothing they won nothing there is nothing in game that world 1st get. So how exactly is that winning?
Every player has the ability to follow the rules and buy tokens for some gold those guys broke the rules because the systems in place do not allow for p2w to be successful in WoW. You have to break the rules to be successful. Even then you donât win anything.
I donât deny its their full time job and yeah sure world 1st people from all mmos turn in to watch. The other 364 days they get a few 100 views.
The title argument of this thread is that boxing is p2w. Itâs not, it takes effort - whether you or anyone else accept it.
What they did is (IMHO) as close to p2w as you can get, regardless of itâs failure. Thatâs thousands of extra dollars spent to get an advantage, yet the claims of this thread would have everyone believe that simply paying for more than one subscription is p2w.
It shows how short sighted these whiners are. They literally dont understand that there is also a cost that incurs for every character in a multiboxing group. So the gold made is actually the same as a single character. For some reason these dunces think that the gold upkeep for the rest of the characters is 0 and that only the main character has bills to pay.
There is absolutely no gold advantage to multiboxing. The rich 1% in wow are AH players. If you believe otherwise then please, give it a try, and dont be a coward after you realize how wrong you were. Come back and admit defeat.
People who multibox for more than just 2 months are doing it for fun, they enjoy the challenge and complexity. Those who get involved thinking it will make them rich quickly quit the moment they realize you can make just as much gold for less trouble on a single toon.
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Uh oh. Here we go⌠Now we are starting to move the goal posts.
So buying tokens with actual money to buy gear which 99% of the population will never obtain isnât that? That is why those guilds bought gold. To buy gear. To win.
lol. Itâs not for you to decide. Itâs almost like, you arenât the authority to tell others what is and isnât winning. What did they win? They wanted to win the race. That is what it is. A race to first.
There is clearly a first place. There are clearly winners.
You seriously just make stuff up as you go. They bought the gold because it came with a big savings. They were also able to buy far more then would have been available on the open market. The amount of gold they wanted might have taken weeks or months had they used in game systems.
Well who cares what you think. Talk about a worthless opinion. There is clearly money to be made and thatâs why they took the risk of buying.
Also, 100âs of views? Their soon to be defunct youtube channel has videos in the millions. A million views can get you $2k-$6k or even more depending on who is advertising. Just looking at their top 5 videos could be as much as $15k-$50k. If you start to factor in sponsors, it could be well over $50k-$100k.
Yea man, clearly not worth it.
Economy of scale. Look it up. Saying there is no advantage means you have almost no understanding of what is actually going on.
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Why are you so angry cant handle other people opinions or actual facts? Step outside little buddy its not healthy to have a temper tantrum like you are especially over a discussion on a video game forum.
Move along everyone little Ardot is having a moment.
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The only one having an issue with actual facts as you. Maybe donât mock other players when you donât even know whatâs going on.
I mean, even your response there makes you sound like an idiot. Why not respond to my comments rather then calling me âlittle buddy.â
Talk about weird. But hey, I know you donât have a worthwhile response, so better make some attacks at me. No worries.
OK says the little buddy who p2w those 20k achievement points.
BTW you canât cry about being called âlittle buddyâ when you call everyone that doesnât agree with you âidiotsâ, âarm chairâ and that their opinions donât matter.
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This guys is crying someone called him âlittle buddyâ. So sweet.
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Posting support to make multiboxing banable.
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I just checked. Thereâs 11 characters with similar names, and that looks more like just a naming scheme for a bunch of alts than a multiboxer.
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Try not attacking other players if you donât like being called an idiot. Pretty simple. Try responding to comments instead of spending most of the thread ignoring them. Try admitting youâre wrong when given overwhelming evidence.
I mean, all you can do is call me little buddy because you donât actually have any response. So, now, you just want to try and mock me for responding to you all.
How quaint.
Again you want to run your mouth like a big internet tough guy attacking everyone who disagrees with you and then cries when the tables are turned (I wouldnât call little buddy an attack donât be so sensitive). I provided you with facts that WoW is not P2W and you threw a temper tantrum. Anyone that comes in here you quote like 15 different quotes ramble on about something completely different and then cry when they donât reply in 2 seconds.
Its actually kind of awkward and weird.
I am not wrong WoW is NOT P2W.
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Congratulations on your first year in college and passing your first economics course. Sorry to say, you need more education and understanding before you start trying to argue on the subject. You see, in WoW, the economy to scale must be applied correctly and in the case of multiboxing it is a âdecreasing returns to scaleâ economy. If say a multiboxing group consisting of 5 characters could be considered a company, than how would you distribute the wealth from profits and the costs from production? If you grant 1 character leadership status and he collects the profits, the other 4 characters remain poor and ineffective in production and efficiency is lost, though the fool may believe since the lead character became wealthy it is pay2win. Though his wealth in WoW and the possible avenues for producing wealth in comparison he would still be inefficient compared to the top producing characters, and actually be completely incompetent in comparison.
If you spread your wealth between your other characters, than their cost become an âeconomy of Constant returns to scaleâ, which is no gain no loss of wealth. And this is where all members become efficient and equal wealth distribution, and the only difference between this group and a solo character is fun, which is subjective. So in the end oneâs decision whether to multibox should and eventually will be based 100% on whether fun applies to them or not and they enjoy the solo method.
I have 8 years of economics under my belt. Git gud.
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