Boxxing is pay to win

[Rankin-shandris (Rankin)]

@Poize-frostmourne

OH NO! okok, approximately 420 then! satisfactory now Miss Perfection? 420 over 400 not an advantage?

A person at 420 with random item level upgrades could very easily lose to a person at 400.

[Liara-draka (Liara)]

I know. Tell that to those who swear they are cheating.
I’m good with boxxer’s.
I see one mounting an attack in an area if in WM I go the other way.
If I’m in the mood to join a group to try and take one down, then game on.
If one has an area locked down for farming, I go to another area and farm there.

Sure it can be aggravating trying to quest in an area one’s in, but I can adapt.

[Poize-frostmourne]

@Rankin-shandris

A person at 420 with random item level upgrades could very easily lose to a person at 400.

You know I’m talking about me on 420 and me on 400 right? shaking my head

[Rankin-shandris (Rankin)]

Now you’re just getting laughably absurd with your cherry picked example.

[Poize-frostmourne]

@Rankin-shandris

Now you’re just getting laughably absurd with your cherry picked example.

10 points to Rankin for a brilliant response when he can’t find an argument.

[Poize-frostmourne]

Anyways time for dinner, GLHF

[Rankin-shandris (Rankin)]

It’s hard to deal with someone who has their goal posts on wheels for easier maneuvering.

[Kånume-garona]

Nope.

It’s still cheating

[Kånume-garona]

Using third party software to box is no better than full automation.

Boxing is lame.

[Kaurmine-area-52]

Something can only be cheating if it’s against the rules.

[Kaurmine-area-52]

Except multiboxers are in control vs full automation

[Kånume-garona]

No, people exploit things all the time that “are not against the rules”, but it’s still cheating.

[Kånume-garona]

Except they are not.

[Kaurmine-area-52]

Then report them and Blizz will decide, if they don’t do anything then it wasn’t cheating

@Kånume-garona

Except they are not.

ok

[Kånume-garona]

@Kaurmine-area-52

will

Lol, ok

/10char

[Kaurmine-area-52]

[Smartdeath-turalyon]

Op could 20 box and still never win.

Myth busted

[Leafbweeze-wyrmrest-accord]

Lol @ all the butthurt multiboxers flagging my replies.

[Adrot-tichondrius]

@Liara-draka

If it were all about the money

It’s ALWAYS about the money. If blizzard could make more money if the game was over run with cheaters, then they would allow it. Anytime they are banning anyone, it’s with a financial concern. That’s how they make their rules.

And there is nothing wrong with it being about the money. That’s how businesses keep their doors open. Every time they ban someone, it’s with the mindset that that person is having a net negative affect on the game and their earnings. It’s not out of some moral obligation the player base.

In respect to that person, they didn’t get banned just for boxxing. You can still get banned for griefing and plenty of multiboxxers do just that.

@Furh-stormrage

EVERYONE CAN BUY THE SAME ITEM FOR THE SAME PRICE. Not pay 2 win. Its a convenience. Maybe I’ll look up the definition of convenience for you on wiki.

People like you are why the rest of us gamers get have a bad reputation.

It’s an advantage. That’s why the big guilds do it.

Still waiting for a response…

Not that people like you ever respond when shown you’re wrong… but going to keep trying.

@Adrot-tichondrius

You know, you could take two seconds to google this and get an answer. There is no conspiracy here. It’s like you guys put in 0 effort to know what’s actually happening in the game. Complexity-Limit spent 257+ million gold for on their push for world first N’Zoth. Method was in the 200 million range.

$10k isn’t much money. That’s pennies compared to the potential residuals. Sponsorships and endorsements alone bring in $100k or more for these guilds, if not more.

Method bought a ton of that gold outside of the accepted channels. That’s what got them in hot water.

Please respond. Thanks.

[Hotramenshop-thrall]

@Liara-draka

So it all comes down to you and others want a free game with no sub?

F2p in other words. To progress you’d have to P2W. (Buy gear from show)

That’s what you’re asking for?

not at all. its normal to buy a copy of a game, pay for expansions, and pay a sub. its standard to pay for access to a video game.

i dont know why this nonsense red herring argument keeps popping up. your either being completely disingenuous or extremely hyperbolic.

@Rankin-shandris

And now you’re talking about a very specific situation that could still result in you losing if you don’t know how to play your class

why do you have to completely misrepresent what pay to win is to make your argument?

oh look you did it again.

@Rankin-shandris

If it’s not a guaranteed win, then it’s “pay to maybe get an advantage”. Not nearly as catchy.

@Furh-stormrage

NOUN

1. the state of being able to proceed with something with little effort or difficulty.

and again, paying for that convenience is P2W. keep posting it like you are proving a point though.

@Rankin-shandris

You’re the one who has redefined it from actually getting an advantage to maybe getting an advantage. So don’t get mad at me.

burning the strawman you built, then trying to blame someone else for building it. nice man.

do you have any arguments that are not willful misrepresentations of the truth, logical fallacy’s, or founded on being deliberately obtuse?

@Furh-stormrage

Pay-2-win

Games where someone who pays with real money has such a huge advantage that its impossible for a free2player to keep up

thank you. it is impossible for me to gather the same amount of resources in an hour as a boxxer who pays more.

it is actually not possible to keep up with someone who pays more.