Botting Question

If the people who are botting on one account and then send all the gold/stuff to themselves on another account get their bot account banned, does their real account get banned too? If not, why?

I’m not an expert on the subject…but if you were smart you would try to avoid detection by indirectly transferring the money.

i.e. main account list items on the AH for slightly above asking price. Bot buys it. Transfer looks legitimate with only a small gold loss in the AH fee.

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Blizz can still detect that. Actually that is pretty easy to find out and they do have the power to see every mail, auction, and so forth that an account does.

To answer the OP, they try not to have a “main” account. It is either a series of temp or stolen accounts knowing that they will be banned and everything removed. They will still try to sell items to make gold to afford the next account or trade out the gold for money via other means.

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What did the real account do wrong?

People don’t get banned licenses get banned. Bot on account2, get banned, still can play account 1

Back during…Cata I believe, I saw a lvl 1 advertising a place where you could go to buy WoW gold. I went to this site, purchased the gold, and in a few days, not only did I receive a ban for doing what I did, all the gold I bought was gone as well. They’re not stupid Onebuttonqt. They can see where everything is coming from.

My advice to you is, don’t bot. It’s not worth it. You may not believe me now, and that’s fine and perfectly to be expected, but a day is going to come where your experience will have taught you, the way it’s taught me. Good luck, and I hope you make wise choices.

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blizzard detection is extremelly lax , bots make billions of gold before getting banned if they get banned at all.
example in Illidan theres a bot hogging darkmoon decks , noone in the server can sell decks because he isnta repost on top of him 24/7 all the time everyday.
took me 5 months of reports to get his account banned , 3 days later he boosted another account and started boting with similar name to the guy that got banned . its being close to 2 months and he is at it basically free money selling decks that cost 1 k to craft and are sold for 12 k so yeah Bots are basically free to bot and the punishment is maybe a lil slap in the wrist and they will continue on going .
regarding your question blizzard maybe can track mails but they dont care , most cheaters empty their bots daily so when they get caught if they get caught they just start over.
you dont even need SL to bot in the AH because you can sell stuff from SL being on bfa and buying tokens ezpz.

If you launder money, and get caught, the guy who gets the “cleaned” money still has it taken away.

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HOPEFULLY real life laws never take effect in Azeroth otherwise there’s going to be quite a few murder charges handed out :laughing:

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Thank you, that makes me feel better about it. I was just seeing how many of these bots were about and it got me thinking.

I thought it went like: These people could pay for their burner accounts with gold, bot on them, get enough gold to make their next account and sell gold online. And the owner account doesn’t get any punishment. I hope they’re banning the owner accounts too.

My point is, if an account acquires illicitly earned gold, then that account, whether it botted it or not, should at minimum have that gold taken away from it.

What happens if it is acquired through a third party like the AH?

Player A: Buys gold {edit: bots}
Player B: Posts legendary
Player A: Buys legendary
Player B: Recipient of illicit gold

Do they take player B’s gold that he earned by crafting and posting an item on the AH? If no that’s a loophole, if yes, then that’s not fair and you can expect player B to be quite understandably upset.

They generally don’t ban main accounts or IP ban or take any action against whatsoever except against the account that is caught.

They might if you were a commercial sized botter and they detect dozens or hundred bots coming from one IP or funneling all the gold they generate into one account.

But if you’re just a regular idiot who bots on a second account and even if you’re blatant enough to just send gold or herbs or whatever to your main account, Blizzard do not care and you won’t suffer any consequences beyond losing the bot account.

Source: I’ve known a loooot of dudes who’ve botted. The only ones who’ve ever got their main account actioned are the ones that botted on their main account.

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exactly , blizzard doesnt care about bots boting and sending gold to main account for all you know if you are short on gold , pay 10 bucks for a week key of a bot , bot for a week on a disposable account cash in all mats , herbs , gold from boting in the AH . chances are you wont get caught and 10 bucks will amount to millions in a week of hardcore botting .
This is why Ip or hardware bans should be enforced , but then again blizzard doesnt care and wow players instead of reporting or complaining about the blatant bots they say like a mindless zombie " how de ye know that they r bottings mon ?" .

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I guess in that situation it wouldn’t make sense to punish player B.

I was thinking of something more direct. Guy owns accounts A and B, bots on B, sends gold to A. That sort of thing.

For a million-player game? Yes, you could do this if you had an archive of EVERY transaction EVERY players makes with EVERY other player. Step 1 is identifying a botter. Step 2 is pulling up the records of EVERY transaction that character has EVER made. Step 3 is separating the 99.99% innocent transactions from the 0.01% guilty transactions.

And of course steps 2 and 3 must be done by humans, so Blizzard needs to add about 30,000 employees to do this. That is why this game costs $1500/per month.

Oh wait, you’re playing the $15/mo game? No, that doesn’t have a 30,000 human employees to check everything…

How do you know that the same person owns account A and account B?

You don’t. Not unless your cousin works for the FBI. And maybe not even then.

Why dont you just craft decks and sell for 1.5k then? He will buy them up and you just buy mats and make another.

It is not functionally possible (unless he is buying all the mats as well) for a person to sell something for 12x the creation cost (unless there is no market to sell to in which case who cares).