No, you’re going off the assumption that people who can pay gold to buy boosts won’t buy them because it costs too much real money- every single thing you say is invalidated because you’re trying to argue against things nobody thought to begin with.
Meanwhile, you’re also saying they have way too much gold to sell, and wouldn’t turn that gold into tokens to buy boosts- you’re obviously wrong, if you can’t figure these things out don’t even post on the topic.
They can boost multiple accounts- did I just blow your mind by letting you in on this thing that anyone with half a brain would figure out? Seriously, your best argument is ‘but they would only have one boosted character’- obviously they’ll boost multiple accounts.
There’s no point trying to explain monopolies and limited resources to these guys, that he somehow thinks diamonds IRL and gold in WoW have the same scarcity is all anyone needs to know.
Funny thing is- in trying to argue that bots won’t boost, they proved beyond any doubt that they will.
It gives you perspective when something like blizzard boosting is a thing. Blizzard boosting doesn’t affect botting…the need for epic flying, epic loot from raid instances and other methods of using gold to purchase power…affects botting. Because people buy gold, then use it on AH, flight trainer, gdkp raids etc.
Sure any hack can drive the price down, then what happens? They run out of gold and sold it all at some ridiculously low price and now they are out of gold and the price goes back.
You know what? It doesn’t matter what the logic is in it whatsoever. I do not care if you think it’s dumb, this is what it is. Like I said you can even check for yourself and see it but you legit said yourself you don’t want to. So if you don’t want to see the proof yourself then you are of no use in this conversation now are you?
Idk how you can read what I’m telling you are choose to repeat it so poorly and just straight up incorrectly and still believe you have a point. I’m sorry but it doesn’t even seem like you’re attempting to read what I’m writing you so you’re going to have to go on ignore. Maybe this is why people like you are so upset about something like bots and boosting. You can’t even understand something when it’s explained word for word for you.
I’ll attempt to explain the boosting token situation as easy as possible for you.
Time to level bot in classic to 58 = less time than it takes to get the gold to buy the boost in classic. The gold in retail is for subs and to sell if you have any extra.
Well then, if you are so in the know about real business then you know the most important factor is Return on Investement (ROI), it is one of the primary driving forces for business decisions. And mulitple account beats out the boosts EVERYTIME when it comes to ROI.
For any botting business, investing in more accounts over a momentary time gain with a boost is always going to net them more ROI and product available to sell.
Don’t know anymore, in mop it was to buy 5 boosts put them in dungeons 18hrs a day and never take them out. Because they could avoid player driven reports. RoI on the boost cost was pretty much negligable compared to how much money they made. Their accounts would get banned every 6months - 1 year.
The only figure I really remember was 1 5man group running MoP heroic was about 30k/yr usd.
I’m saying that representations made on an untrustworthy, sleazy website do not constitute proof. I wouldn’t take anything I read on such a site at face value.
This has absolutely nothing to do with it. I don’t even think you read the thread to be honest lol. They could never ban the bots and this wouldn’t effect them not buying the boost.
The simple truth is they have stockpiles of gold, they literally can’t get rid of it quick enough. Them using their own money to buy a boost in order to have a few extra days of farming to increase their already massive stockpile makes no sense. And quite frankly it’s embarrassingly stupid if you think so.
Is this you? Making your entire argument based on them having more gold than they could possibly use, then somehow making the absolute bone head argument that they wouldn’t spend $60 of their own money and utterly ignoring that you’re saying they have more gold than they could ever sell, and that they can turn their retail gold into boosts without spending a cent of real money.
No, I assume they’ll be using that stockpiled gold they have too much of- see what I mean, you guys can’t possibly make an argument without resorting to ‘but they would not spend real money!’. NOBODY IS SAYING THEY WOULD, you’re the ones suggesting over and over they would have to.
Option C- using those hundreds of millions of gold stockpiled on retail to buy as many bots/boosts as my hardware can handle running.
But go ahead you two, keep arguing about this and trying to ignore retail tokens because they utterly destroy every single thing you say- it’s fun watching you prove gold sellers have more gold than they could ever need and would obviously buy boosts with all that surplus.
Keep talking about real money for boosts, I’m sure if you keep making sleazy arguments like these that pointedly ignore all the facts someone will believe you.
It’s not sleazy at all. Sure maybe the act in your eyes is sleazy because you play the game, but this is a serious profession that people live off of. This is not some shotty website anymore. They take this insanely serious because for some this is their LIFE. Whether you want to believe it or not, these websites are very professionally done.
And then I explained to you why they don’t spend their retail gold on these things? Are you choosing to ignore that?
But they wouldn’t possibly use all their retail stockpiles on boosts- because that’d wreck Rorshak’s argument, and boosters are far more considerate than that.
Wouldn’t want to make him look like a clown by thinking of the obvious solution of just buying tokens with gold- no, they’d have to use real world money for his sake.
We are all getting a kick out of how many ways you are admitting to selling wow gold on blizzard’s own forums lol… Above and beyond actually saying it as you did up above.
The other huge reason you’re just so wrong its hilarious is that player driven reports appear to be the number 1 way botters accounts get banned.
To make an incredibly long explanation short the “pro’s” always figure out if their program has been “marked” because blizzard reads your ram and flags programs that are known botting programs and then you get put on a list to get banned. You can add junk code to make the program change its “appearance” and then congratulations its a new program. This is assuming you aren’t using client injection which has been detected since before MoP which then its just a crapshoot whether or not you get detected.
But taking your really really bad analogy and napkin math. If you have 5k accounts leveling in the game world, most likely 1/3rd of them are going to get banned from player generated reports (which SOMETIMES happens outside of the normal wave cycles. because they used to have a gm monitor them if enough player reports are generated.
Its literally no coincidence botting reached its peak in MoP and early WoD… you know. When boosts where added.
Ok replace all instances of real world money with in-game gold. The math still works out in favor of more accounts over boosts. The currency used does not matter, the math still works either way.
Then you believe it. But don’t expect everyone else to believe it, especially when, like I said, it doesn’t make logical sense from a business/economic standpoint, IMO.
