Bots in Wrath

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Various reasons why it’s still an issue:

  1. Lack of a kernel anti-cheat to detect input injection methods which are known to evade user-land anti-cheat detection.
  2. Failure to lock controls for WoW whenever RDP is detected running.
  3. Over-reliance on server-side “detection” where bots unlock hidden bot achievements essentially. We saw this with non-bots for the AV AFK banwave and that guy who got false positived as a bot for running too many stratholmes for the mount.
  4. Due to cross-realm commodities (on regular retail), bots can now hide away in low population realms to evade player reports. It can no longer be relied on for players to hunt for them.
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No way someone could be botting since BC if they have been reported. Most likely they are not botting but for what ever reason you think they are. If there was any sign that they had been but no evidence is showing up.

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I’m at the point where I just want to hit the fast forward button to where ABK licenses Riot’s Vanguard to employ in ABK titles.

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Blizzard does have this, and has had it for a long time now. It’s called Warden. However it requires Blizzard to learn how the bots work and figuring out how to have Warden detect them. Blizzard finds a way and the bot makers find a way to get around it.

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AFAIK warden is user-land.

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I thought it was kernel, which is why even having the programs on your system will trigger detection, even if not running while WoW is. You might be right though.

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You don’t need kernel-land to grab a list of running processes or to see what’s tampering with your own process. You’d use a kernel-based one to prevent software from hiding their input injection.

If it was kernel-land you’d have linux compatibility issues, unless the warden team designed a warden module specifically for linux distros.

I’m already at the point where I say go hard and all in and license Riot’s Vanguard. It’s a back and forth wasting employee time to try to fight them with user-land only protections.

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Doesn’t Riot use a rootkit for cheat detection? That is a hard pass for me, Rootkits = Malware and Viruses, I don’t want that garbage on my computer.

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People like to spread FUD about Vanguard.

The fact is it does work. To the point that private paid cheats people pay thousands of dollars for are regularly detected.

The real question is:
Do you hate bots enough that you’re willing to let go of linux compatibility to free the game of bots?

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I am not giving some one unrestricted access to my computers because they think I might cheat. Also, the source of the rootkit is quite sketchy anyways.

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If you’ve ever run an EAC or battleye protected game, you’ve run something with the same permission levels as Vanguard. Again, people, especially botters, like to spread FUD.

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So you are accusing me for being a botter, because object to rook kits being installed on my computers.

I don’t play those games for that reason.

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No, you probably saw the FUD elsewhere. Reddit was full of bad actors posting FUD about Riot Vanguard, that Riot employees had to fact check it all.

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I don’t go to reddit, it’s a garbage pit, but I do read a lot of security articles and tech journals. Rootkits = Bad.

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