Borrowed Power Systems?

I tried to do the legion artifact thing, but found out later the powers for it are completely disabled. Why does blizzard keep putting in 1 expansion systems that get removed when it’s over? Seems like a waste of resources and development time to do that.

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As much as i hate borrowed power and the removal of content, i don’t think it’s always possible to leave such a complicated and robust number of abilities in the game when every one of these systems is abandoned, can you imagine the nightmare of bugs and broken spell combinations that the community would be abusing if it were all left in the game?

I will say this though, if they have to remove the spells and abilities, i get that, but leave the quests in place, just turn the items into grey unusable trash, there’s no need to take all of that lore away from the game (like the MoP cloaks).

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That’s why it was called a “borrowed power system.” And half those talents are baked into specs now.

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@Generousjim

The WoW community complained so much that Blizzard was forced to remove certain legion systems. For example, when Dragonflight was released, there was a seasonal affix called ‘Thundering.’ Blizzard had originally stated that there would be cool elemental affixes for each season. However, the WoW community decided it was ‘too difficult,’ and as a result, Blizzard completely removed it.

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That way people will immediately have to start grinding for new gear instead of their gear carrying over halfway into the next expansion’s leveling.

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That is one of the reason’s why we complained about it.

It is one of the reasons they have stopped doing it.

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Mythic+ affixes are not a borrowed power system.

Im glad the concept is largely abandoned.

Hero Talents is easily one of the better ideas theyve had.

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they found this out during tbc when some lvl60 gear was still really useful

iirc for example the old luffa trinket was useful for something early in tbc

kind of ridiculous so they’ve done stuff 1 expansion at a time since

Thanks dude, I have no idea that Mythic+ isn’t a borrowed power system.

It’s was not a waste.

Swapping out the hero talents each expansion seems like the best way to do it.

They don’t. The last expansion with any significant borrowed power launched 4 1/2 years ago. They stopped after that.

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I just wish they wouldn’t tie certain hero talents to optional talents in the class/spec tree. Otherwise they’re cool.

The bones of artifact weapon system was great

Slotting empowering items, mogs tied to various activities or achievements

The main issue was they were super lore heavy and how do you carry that forward, but not having to farm a weapon was nice

I wish they kept the system for weapons in general some how. I hate farming weapons.

That seems like the way they’re headed at the moment.

They disable it, because there are people out there, who enjoy exploiting and if they get certain abilities they will keep using them, to cheese content.

Imagine certain speed buffs, or damage modifiers in Mythic raids, from Legion and BFA set pieces. It could trivialize content and we all know that this would happen, like now with the level 11 toons running dungeons …

Borrowed power systems didn’t have to be that, if they’d been designed to remain in the game indefinitely. But Blizz apparently wanted them to be a bit over the top to try to ‘hook’ as many players as possible (since a lot of players want every new thing to be huge and significant), and the game couldn’t really sustain having every new power system be like that without turning into Diablo so we ended up with expansion-locked borrowed power systems as we know them today.

Because that was something they were happy to do from Warlords of Draenor to Shadowlands. It wasn’t good design, and Blizzard recognizes that now. But the older borrowed power systems remain, and it’s highly unlikely they’ll be updated to make them evergreen. That ship has sailed and sunk, but it still sailed.

They haven’t done that since Shadowlands, though. Dragonflight was free of borrowed power systems, and so far, the War Within has been as well.

At that time, they didn’t really care because they had already screwed up big with WoD. they had basically crashed their own game from 12 1/2 million players to 3 1/2 million players in a course of six years. I feel like it was pretty much overstated for a reason and legion was pretty well executed, but that power system pretty well executed the next expansion. which is how we wound up with a necklace.