This picture made me lol irl.
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There has always been some toxicity yes but not to the extent. It’s everywhere. LFG, guild recruitment, the AH for Jevvus sake. Blizzard recently started censoring phrases and the like. I don’t remember people spitting on heirlooms or RaF mount players.
I’m not taking my frustrations out on anyone. You are probably assuming I’m one of those people that was spamming /spit during prepatch. You’re mistaken.
This dude gave his take on why he thinks boosting is okay, I shot that down with facts. Boosting was not in the game at the time period and Blizzard flat out lied back with Vanilla Classic saying “Boosts and cosmetics will never be apart of classic”, well, look how that turned out.
I’m still paying my sub because what are my options if I want TBC? A fresh private server every 5-6 months? No thanks.
According to top parses, BM hunters are top DPS followed by arcane mage. The top Lock spec you speak of uses incinerate not SB and gets lucky curse of Doom crits making their parse higher than usual. That also means multiple locls as CoE is a requirement.
I had my day as a top parsing lock. Now days I enjoy running dungeons with MY CHILDREN. What is your problem with that? I can’t hear you over the sound of arcane blast. If you aren’t an arcane blaster youre doing it wrong.
I don’t know. I honestly don’t find the toxicity to be any worse than it was back then. Whether you happen to be a FOTM class or you wear a popular transmog, a certain percentage of the playerbase is going to feel responsible for you letting you know that you chose “incorrectly” lol.
I’ve found players to be very helpful in TBCC so far. The forums and trade chat are always going to be the worst offenders.
I’m not happy with the boosts either, but there’s no need to shoot the guy down with facts lol. The real fact is that Blizzard probably thought more people would play classic if they didn’t have to level 1-70. When TBC was current, that wasn’t a consideration as the game was still building to its peak. TBCC has peaked already. It’ll never have more players than it did a month ago.
I get that. I understand I’m the devil for playing the same class I have always played. I’m probably a bad cause as soon as I hit 70 I snagged some gear off the AH to help me carry my kids too.
Yes because Hunter starts higher but scales worse than warlock.
Arcane is doing good right now because fights are really fast which is what it shines on but make no mistake the real fights are going to be longer than 3 minutes. Which will ultimately make Arcane worse.
Warlocks right now are fire for some reason because it starts off better than Shadow but Shadow will out scale it so all warlock should be switching the shadow next phase.
I’d modify that to “… people won’t get upset enough over boosting to cancel their sub” but otherwise I think you’re right on.
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This isnt next phase and I don’t care about any of that to be honest. I’ll continue on as I have been and if the group doesn’t want me because they want to squeeze an extra 47 damage per seconds under perfect conditions then good luck to them. As I said I am having fun playing with my kids, not impressing the arcane blasters.
And I already play shadow demo because I don’t have 2 piece and the difference in DPS is minimal but SB actually does more damage for now. I was top demo lock on Tichondrius in MoP and I don’t care about top parses anymore.
For the guy that said I boosted Horde - on a 53% Alli 47% Horde server. Yes we boosted on the slightly outnumbered side. It’s fun to kill alli together.
I didn’t mean you specifically, but yeah, people don’t like locks in TBC haha. Frankly, I wouldn’t worry too much about what a very small percentage of the playerbase thinks. Presumably a good number of those people are just trolling you knowing that they’re protected by the anonymity of the internet. Play as best as you can and everything will work out.
There isn’t a player in this game that didn’t get carried at least once. They really have no room to judge anyone.
I’m not telling you how to play, I was responding to what you said about dps parses and how they may be like that now but t4 is a joke with faster kills than you will see in t5 content.
Idc what you play rofl.
Be a wand spec lock and have 19 minute kills, don’t matter to me rofl.
Of course it is. Why is it that people who want to say “that’s not a slippery slope” never bother to scan the forum for–e.g.–all the “so when are you going to enable multiple boosts/blood elf and draenei boosts/whatever random changes to the game I personally think would be improvements, Blizzard? Come on, having opened the door you have no excuse for not doing so, hurry it up, I want!” posts?
(Rhetorical question. I know why. As they say, it’s hard to get someone to understand something when something they want is dependent on not understanding it.)
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All eight of them.
And your four jobs.
And your sainted mother.
Let’s not forget your 40 hours a week of volunteering at the animal shelter.
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Those are rookie numbers
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I don’t see why anyone would believe that. That doesn’t make too much sense to me. People are saying “leveling is dead blah blah blah”, it’s really not. Believe it or not this is how it was back in 07 as well. A very solid amount of players were above 58. I started in late 06 before the prepatch hit. Guess what? Back then there weren’t a “booming” amount of players in base Azeroth. There were times when it felt quite lonely.
And uh, I just started Classic myself believe it or not. And while yes a majority of players are AT 70, I still find myself running into people constantly. It’s obviously not at vanilla-era levels, but there’s plenty of people, whether its LFG in chat or just strangers in the world.
I think this is the biggest take I can give you. I started playing private servers all the way back in Wrath, yes, Wrath, one of the most highly regarded expansions. Back then, a lot of players, including myself, quit the game because it was a very STRONG deviation from TBC and we weren’t very comfortable with it. Over the years of private server growth, players would complain with the overwhelming amount of Blizzlike servers (Meaning, you start at level 1, regardless of what you do), when this came to expansion servers like TBC, Wrath or even Cataclysm, people would rejoice when an instant 58, 68 or even max level server would come out and some private server devs would often cite thus (I don’t know about you guys, but I started Wrath at 70, not level 1).
Here’s the problem with that, players instantly get access to toolkits that didn’t have at lvl 1. Such as higher level skills to 1 shot mobs in your way of nodes, or even epic riding. So the economy INSTANTLY engages with overpriced materials and gankers (Understand most private servers were pvp). So what happened? Private servers went back to the 1x model, but sadly, another problem arose. People with severe ADHD, wanted a FRESH START every time a server progressed through even 1 raid. Because they felt they were way behind and never catch up. That’s why you see a lot of “WHERE’S CLASSIC ERA FRESH”. And to be honest that’s no way to play either, because your progress is instantly invalidated the minute a new expansion or private server came out, that’s why we see a lot of flak from players because of the unbelievable neglect Blizzard is giving Vanilla.
I’m sorry, but there is absolutely NO reason, you cannot just start a new level 1 character and level like everybody else did. This is a pure cop-out to get ahead of the game. Play it normally. This option isn’t even necessarily a convenience, this is a “PAY2SKIP” option. If you don’t like classic and yes that includes the continent of Azeroth, then stop playing.
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The slippery slope is a fallacy for a reason. Again, I don’t agree with boosting, but I’d have to imagine that there’s a logical reason for its inclusion. It makes money obviously, but I wonder what the population of classic would look like if boosting had never been a thing. How many people just wouldn’t have bothered leveling 1-70?
Blizzard is in a bit of weird spot with classic. We aren’t building to 12 million players. TBCC has already peaked. I doubt that many new players are signing up these days.
I miss the good old days when they would have banned you for talking about this.
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I don’t think you need a boost in place to run dungeons with your children… they would’ve been fine running deadmines and shadowfang keep.
Why are boosts bad? They helped further kill off the old world. I’m leveling my pally atm and rarely see people out and about. Sure there are player services available to boost, but that takes in game gold or illegal services that could get you banned.
Long story short… bliz just provided a bliz-supported method to skip their content, which is very short sighted.
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Sure there is. A certain number of the current playerbase would not have leveled the “right” way. I agree in that I think they do themselves a disservice by skipping so much of what the game has to offer, but they aren’t to blame for the current state of the game.
I played when TBC was current. New players were signing up every day. The game was still building to its peak subscriber count. That isn’t the case now and won’t ever be again. Even if the boosting was gone, the old world would still be dead and old world mats would still be expensive. There are no new players to keep that economy rolling.