Boomkins are very boring to play against

SPAM cyclone, bear form regen, do nothing until incarn come back,. Boomy can make 100 mistakes and still survives because they are literal tanks

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I won’t pretend it doesn’t have an insane skillcap

but my issue is that at its skillfloor it’s just such a boring overpowered oppressor and saying im bored of it is a disgusting understatement

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that 1 cooldown that gives tham gigachad bearform for 45 seconds is the most tilting thing in the universe imo

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That’s why it pairs soo well with rogues, infinite redo classes.

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People just don’t like Druids on this sub is my impression. Dont like them healing, don’t like them casting, don’t like them in bear form. Think they only like squishy feral Druids

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I had a normal 2s game where an average 1700 hpal vs an average 1700 rdruid had an 8m to 21m healing discrepancy. He barely had to cast once. He was immortal all game. I had several games like that. This was with a decent amount of cc going out. Triple fears; stun into coil etc it didnt matter.

Druids need to be dialed back in a lot of ways. Its kinda disgusting how broken they are atm. Feral is okay but rdruid throughput and boomkin dps is beyond bonkers + all three specs are waaay too tanky

That’s just how the game is right now though. Don’t blame the Druid for slow pacing

this is a lie

people just hate cyclone, it is awfully implemented and the most broken cc in the game

plus they get rootie b on a 1 min cd? come on dude, plus typhoon? plus bash?

how many tools does one class deserve, let alone need when they already have the strongest cc in the game, and they can spam it

what a joke

Druids make the game infinitely slower

Same can be said about priests

Boomy just needs to be punishable, it currently is not. Cyclone tears would go way down if boomy stood mid map and died instead of getting kicked and just lol’ing at you till they can start pressing the button again.

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we are better than giving earnest responses to the admittedly talented amyrii more than a year after he gave away the game with “i never upgrade my gear so that i don’t feel panic-attack levels of pressure to win challenger games”

100% true

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Good take genius lucky I don’t play it huh

I’ll take any compliment

It’s only been 3 months though. I was banned for reasons I can’t give. Really unfair how I was treated

No i don’t upgrade my gear because I like to get the complete set before I change sets. I don’t get high rated anyways so it’s not a big deal. I get the anxiety from higher rated matches where mistakes are much more penalized

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Is this really what you’re selling

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maybe if they get kicked they shouldnt be able to go bear form for duration of kick?

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I’m just going to play devils advocate because even I think boomy is disgusting af rn.

If you just let a boomy spam clone, you deserve the loss. If a boomy pre bears all your goes, they played well. If a boomy can’t do anything outside of incarn, they are really bad. I win most of my games without my incarn.

I will. The skillcap from boomy is the same skillcap as any casting wizard, you need to play for the precog jukes and just generally outplay everyone, but that’s something every good wizard learns over time. Boomy has one of the highest skill ceilings, but also the easiest ability to pickup.

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Long overdue

We’re not going to get any changes this season that are major enough to make Druid haters happy.

Realistic nerfs that might be acceptable bandaid nerf targets are probably the increased healing received during frenzy and skin, the armor in owl and bear forms, the stat bonuses from lycara, the cd on proc frenzy, and a reversion of the frenzy buff. They don’t like to admit mistakes, so I think the last one is the most unlikely

Boomkin is enough of a historical favorite that it seems doubtful the devs want to let it suck outright. In that light I think it might be more fun to brainstorm what the haters want boomy to be

I think clone duration nerf just makes the most sense(it was effectively 5s the first season anyway). Nerfing personal defensives just makes training them into the dirt most likely if/when the game speeds back up again. It’s not fun to have to live and die by the precog.

Speaking of which, maybe a change/nerf to precog? That seems to be the biggest enabler to cyclone more than anything. TWW gems do seem to at least be making it a harder choice to pick up next expansion at least(+15% damage reduction when in cc vs precog).

To add onto this, the strat already was to train them into the dirt. Frenzied regen was unnerfed BECAUSE of this. The best strat 9/10 times is still just to tunnel the boomy, and hope they dont bear every stun.

Well yes. Get rid of precog. Fixes the wizard issue for the most part.