How do I play this spec when melee run @ me 24/7
What is my stat priority
Do I just sit on incarn get full astral power and go pew pew pew w/starsurge?
whats macro for root beam
Vers/Haste.
You should never overcap AP.
/cast [target=focus] Mass Entanglement
/cast [target=focus] Solar Beam
You press bear on stuns and try to juke kicks to get clones.
A lot of nuance to it but this is the simplicity.
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I’ll regret saying this but hot tip for any boomkins:
Mistweavers’ Chi-ji the red crane grants freedom, so don’t root beam during it
Haste+verse. I personally like the tier chest and gloves, because that also gives you a bit of mastery, which is mathematically your best stat damage-wise. Haste is the msot important, though, to get out your dream burst wraths and cyclones.
#Showtooltip Solar Beam
/cast [target=focus] Mass Entanglement
/cast [target=focus] Solar Beam
HOWEVER, beam is off gcd and root is not, so make sure you’re not on global when you press it or they can just walk out.
Try not to overcap astral power as you generate a ton. Optimal burst is:
- Have dots
2.press trees - Incarn
- FOE if talented
- Rip surges
- Dream burst wrath casts
Realistically you’ll need to weave cc in there, though.
Apply dots and run, try to use typhoon on their mobility to knock a leap/charge, same with disengage - avoid pairing them together for obvious reasons. I like to play feline swiftness into melee to help with the bonus movespeed and just make sure to form shift and ideally be in bear form if off stun DR, especially if you don’t have skin.
The biggest thing is learning when to damage, because you can’t camp in bear form or you’ll just lose.
In a lot of matchups it’s better for your healer to be in the open rather than on a pillar and let you just run laps.
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Why you telling them our secret tech??
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Ya, beam literally only works on evokers and non-gnome priests.
Paladin horse self-applies freedom, shaman have spirit walk, druids shift, monk can chi-ji
For monks you could just not do it while Chi-ji is out though.
I feel like most boomies I’m playing against don’t even know why it’s not going off, it’s not like I’m pressing it right as I know they’re going to root beam, Chi-ji is out for a solid 5 seconds before it. Chi-ji is not usable while silenced
Correct! Some monks play gnome also.
The thing to watch out for is if he’s glowing red-orange (or has a manifested spirit crane)
Shamans can spirit walk it.
I said that!
Sorry dad, wasn’t paying attention. Boomie is preegood if u getting clones out consistently.
Is conq cap gone yet???
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Definitely! It’s just a lot harder to play than most meta specs because it’s so squishy. It’s always wild to me to watch SPs and hunters and locks W key, like, “man I wish I could do that”.
Sometimes yes, depends on your comp and healer especially. Evoker, for example, has limited range and damage, but with big gaps in healing. When you play with pres you WANT to stay in and do damage and rotate clones. However, in some MUs (like vs feral/sp), they’re too tanky to stay in and outtrade, so you need to run away and line with the pres and just blast the feral if he ever tries to push in.
There are a lot of classes/specs that play similarly regardless of MU, but boomy is definitely not one of them.
One of the biggest traps I see people run into is thinking they’re asbur and W key forward and spam clone and just explode. That and camping bear form and doing no damage and losing slightly more slowly.
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Alright so basically after a day or so of doing comp stomp and some 2s the way I do damage is:
I get dots + treants + foe (in that order), I know FoE is giving me giga juiced wraths that aoe explode, do these break cc? Is their damage really that high?
When I start my casted damage, sometimes I just triple wrath if im not capped on AP, sometimes I just unleash surge surge surge surge surge, weave in instant starfire casts when they proc and then clone ofc.
What is auto applying my moonfire for me? Do you ever double tap incarn? Do you want to line up the 2nd FoE w/2nd Treants?
Are treants amping my damage?
Okay, dots first, then treants, then eclipse for boat + haste + damage buffs, then FOE and spam surge. If you’re not in eclipse/incarn, and you dont have dots up then nothing is dying.
Nope! That’s the treants!
Yes to both!
Treants!
More important to line it up with trees than anything
Foe is good, but less important than trees!
Treants themselves, no, but they apply moonfire and melee for 0.5% of your overall and more importantly give the dream burst buff which is usually your 3rd or 4th damage. It’s very significant!
If you find youre not getting good dream burst value then youre not getting enough wraths off in solar eclipse.
Okay, so only way to get to eclipse is either press incarn or hardcast / insta cast two starfires for wrath specifically right? I did a dummy test and that rotation seems to amp my damage a fair bit.
Oh hey look at that I was wrong LMAO
Ty, will eventually get a recording of some low shuffle when i decide to q it
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Yep! Very big difference in damage. Dont need to do it if you’re just gonna press incarn, but very good otherwise.
Also, since we play control the dream in the KOTG hero talent tree, dont worry about shipping everything off cd, it’s okay to hold some stuff for cc. That being said, you generate a LOT of astrao power. Don’t be afraid to lob one for the haste buff in between goes - just make sure to have AP for the go itself.
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I should farm a boomy set for my bear druid so i can go back to enjoying my suffering as boomy
I’m 21-21 in shuffle, about to be 1800.
I have discovered a few things:
- boomkin damage go boom
- Clone very powerful
- Healers are terrible at healing you.
- Root beam is a myth against most healers
- I got called a kickbot by an azralon priest cause gates would open and I’d just insta send a beam on his VT.
- 99% of melee simply never stop connecting to you. (Or I am bad)
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Gratz! Next stop 2400 and glad mount!
Ya, if people don’t dispel off cd and you’re allowed to cast, boomy has better burst damage than destruction warlocks, which is nuts.
Extremely!
Yes, but boomy also has the least self healing of any spec in the game except maybe assassination rogue.
Boomy quite literally is the squishiest class.
A lot of people have this perception that bear form is a defensive, but in reality bear form armor and stam is lower than the passive armor+stam in the dk class tree.
Also, while frenzy has a bonus healing received component, the button is a 20% heal in exchange for silencing yourself for 5 seconds. It’s almost nothing.
Yep! Shaman, druid, paladin can get out of it for free. Monks can preemptively aura master or chiji. Priest and gnome monks can escape artist out of every single one. Evokers can pre-wall (2 charges, 12s duration). And outside of that, most classes have a way to remove it off the healer.
LOL. Yeah, since beam is so unreliable as you mentioned, I like to use beam on VT vs priests and mages during veins. Vs sp you can rotate beam, meld, beam for the first 3 void torrents and get a lot of tempo off that.
Really depends on the comp.
Yes, you can shift every slow off, but you’re not necessarily getting away by doing that. Boomy has no slow, so just shifting means you’re going at basically the same speed.
Also, shifting is functionally two globals to do anything meaningful because you always need to shift back into form.
Moonkin cannot kite the way a hunter, mage, or warlock can because all your movement is linear and you don’t have a true freedom effect or slow, so they can basically always reconnect.
If you have a partner who is actively slowing the target, then you can kite melee forever. If you don’t, then you’re not kiting, you’re just moving and dragging.
Things like dhs, rets, ww will always have basically permanent uptime and good warriors will totally have uptime during their cds.
The BIG thing to do vs warriors is to save HUMAN FORM wild charge (faster travel speed and longer range) for their blade storm (you can press it normally in between storms). The majority of warrior damage is in the bladestorm, and disengage in owl form isn’t enough to get away. You also ideally wanna wild charge to your dps partner in this scenario so you don’t open up your healer to a charge+fear on the reconnect.
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This is pretty saucey tech, big moves have been made.
Absolutely too old.
Curious, what talent builds do you run? I’m just using whatever I imported from Corkiri
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