BM Hunter Spec Overhaul for Dragonflight

Classes Hunter
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Before reading please forgive me if I’ve repeated myself on something I have fibromyalgia and mindfog is difficult to concentrate through sometimes.

PVE abilities you should restore on BM Hunters:

Improved Revive Pet (WOTLK) Instant cast 1.5 minute cooldown similar to instant summons on warlocks.

Improved Mend Pet (WOTLK, include cleanse with this spell again and improved healing by 100% more)

Restore Spirit Bond (WOTLK, causes pet to regenerate 2% of it’s maximum hitpoints every 10 seconds)

Serpent’s Swiftness (WOTLK, make it a passive skill that happens at the beginning of Bestial Wrath rather than at the end)

Talents that should be BM Class Spec abilities:

Animal Companion - Class Spec ability. We should have two pets at all time for BM hunters as a class specific passive skill.

Dire Beast (passive, occurs with Kill Command lasts the current duration with current CD)

Stampede (deserves to be a class spec ability for BM Hunters replacing Exotic Pets which are really just part of the spec, think about it, if Demonology Spect Warlocks were forced to pick this for their Felhounds, not consistent is it.)

PVE skills you should update for BM Hunters:

Change Kill Command into an actual execute similar to Touch of Death on Monks, 3 minute cooldown.

Replace Kill Command’s current iteration to Sic’em.

Worthless Traits for BM Hunters: 9.2 please replace

We don’t need One with the Pack

We don’t need Chimaera Shot

Murder of Crows (deserves to be a glyph on another skill so that casting that skill like
Beastial Wrath will cause Murder of Crows.)

Bloodshed (should be a beast ability that exists only on Exotic Pets that way it will be always available and the pet can cast it)

Rexxar Lore Suggestion (Tank Melee Option):

And finally, I’d like to see a melee option dual wield for BM hunters, we should have been given this option in WOTLK/BFA so that you could have another tank available to players. If you combine the suggestions above it will allow BM hunters to have a new purpose in dungeons. In WOTLK BM hunters had the ability to take over tanking because of the glyphs that healed our pets and because of our instant resurrection ability. Pets were the most tanky they ever were in WOTLK, this allowed us to help our pugs and raids whenever a tank dropped from the group and we were waiting for eternity for a new one to pop.

Both Survival and BM should receive the option of melee, in the case of the BM hunter it should be an option for DPS or Tank purpose either or.

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they should be able to spec into 3 hunter pets tbh.

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Make BM hunter AoE focused. Never really understood the idea that the spec which has been sold to us as a deadly ranged sniper is AoE focused while the dude who commands a pack of bloody thirsty animals is ST focused.

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you and i remember wotlk very differently, the only time hunters ‘took over tanking’ was when we massively outgeared the content, and that wasn’t just a hunter thing; i once did a nexus heroic where the ‘tank’ in icc heroic gear never left moonkin form.

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If they do ONE thing RIGHT!!!
it would be to Make Animal Companion cosmetic baseline and get rid of the de buff/modifier to our other pet based ability’s.

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i cant wait to see what they do with the talent trees im definitely going to main hunter again then the new op class for pvp…lol.

i hope the pets you can tame in dragonglight look really cool.

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I really want Dire Beast to be a viable talent again. Make it a focus generator and not a spender. And rework Kill Shot to give us the heal when it killed something again. I so don’t understand why that was left off. I loved it. It was such a life saver.

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Also BM supposedly being “single target focused” is a new thing. From BFA all the way back to MoP BM has typically had pretty good AoE.

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Things I miss most from previous expansions.
Non RNG Focus regeneration.
Mastery Benefit.
Blink Strike.
5 target Lynx Rush for AOE.
Exhilaration that re sett ability’s.
Heal Pet that Heals the pet. without relying on Exhilaration. Damn Heroic Skolex even with Heal Pet cast on burrow wont stop insta kill. and pulling off/Move to X is a dps reduction.
Raid/party wide Cheetah. Sure some long runs in Sepulcher etc.
Pet Spec swapping.
Pet party buffs.
Beast Cannon.
Wave front stampede. OR make the it Target-able like Druids…Fury of Elune .
Bestial Wrath immunity to stun snares and roots.
Volley.
Reduced Focus cost during Bestial Wrath.

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Please do not post anymore terrible ideas. Kill command on a 3 min cd? Way to kill the spec.

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BM should be a AOE class, not a ST class. Or let us spec into AOE/ST for particular situations. Kill command should not be on a 3 min cooldown. If anything it should be our execute. Cobra shot should not be our #1 damage dealer. Pet AI needs major improvement and is something they should focus on not just for us but all pet classes. Your ideas are terrible my friend and it seems you dont really understand BM hunter.

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Let us ‘befriend’ aka ‘Tame’ Dragonkin. That would be so freaking cool. :slight_smile: Yeah I know not likely happening but I can dream.

I’d really love it if we could get Camo to work the way it does for Rogues and Druids. No more super short duration with annoying cool down. Just let us stealth and sneak properly!

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don’t like any of this “ideas”

no to 2 pets.
no to melee.

I miss MoP early talents.

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As much as I hate the concept of a Hunter tank and think it’s an extremely poor fit for the class, I appreciate that OP at least envisions it as an optional choice rather than an uncompromising and unwanted spec-wide rework like 99% of all other Hunter tank suggestions.

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i disagree mb should be a single target class with minimal aoe.

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I wonder with the new Talent trees Being as its activated at level 10 If most of our current base kit for any class or spec will become diminished to a near basic level. and most of our heretofore baked in ability’s will be moved to the new Skill tree instead.

So far information points to a maximum of 65 points at level 70 split 35/30 Class/Spec to make your build. Hoping this doesn’t mean we will need to sacrifice utility or survability to get max DPS.

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This is such a complete mess I don’t even know where to begin…

Kill command on 3 min CD???
BM with an option for tank spec???
Always hated 2 pets… and one is slower than the other and less effective… keep it to one pet only!!!
In WOTLK BM hunters had the ability to tank?? No they didn’t unless you mean while questing…
Melee option for BM hunters is ridiculous… THEY HAVE A PET AS THEIR PRIMARY source of damage… go be a rogue if you want to melee…

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Heres one….don’t make BM spec into binding. It is stupid and all specs should have it like MM does.

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I personally don’t like 2 pets all the time. I’d like if it was a choice of 2 pets vs your main pet deals X more damage.

Increased focus should be baked into bestial wrath and aspect of the wild replaced with MoP stampede as BM’s main cd. I also think wild should become SV’s cooldown instead of the bestial wrath copy.

spirit bond for bm again

better aoe options like kill command cleave, dire beast hawk from pvp, lynx rush from mop etc.

also replace the cobra shot animation cause it looks stupid

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@snozzle Apparently you are still having issues with reading comprehension. His point was to make Kill Command into an execute, and create a new spell “sic’em” which would have the same functionality as the current Kill Command.