Just check the WCL and wanna learn how to increase my DPS. But what dispointed me is the ranking. In the TOP 500 DPS, there’s no even one BM hunter! There’s no even one BM in the top 500 Dps. Compared all the ranged DPS for the Mythic Champion of the light, the top warlock DPS is 37850.1 whilie the top BM is only 22,599.3. Alright, may someone wanna tell me the mechanic will affect the DPS. However, for all the other ranged DPS, the lowest one is about 25k. So will somebody explain the reason? ?
We are Marksmanship this tier. Assuming your raid leader will not let you play Survival.
My raid leader lets me bring the spec I’m most comfortable with. I’m most comfortable with the one I play the most. I play the spec that’s the most fun.
thus I bring survival to raid and do well enough to down bosses and get AoTC.
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It’s the beginning of the tier for mythic. Logs are massively inflated/deflated because there aren’t enough parses to get a good grasp on what’s going on, especially considering the tuning that just occurred.
Method is using 2 hunters for their world first race right now. Gingi is BM, Meeres is MM. Both are viable for endgame content.
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+1, it’s also very favourable to multidot padding. If the fight is short it especially favours classes with high opening burst.
BM doesn’t need to be the very best to be desirable in raids. It’s still brought to raids even by the very best. This has never been the class to go to for top-tier DPS like Warlocks/Mages, and that’s fine.
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Why shouldn’t BM (or MM) be top tier DPS?
Hunters are a pure DPS class and don’t offer anything unique (such as battle shout, battle rezzes, cookies, food, portals).
Saying a pure DPS class shouldn’t be very desirable (for DPS) is just wrong.
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Agree . It makes my eyes rain.
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The best guilds in the world are bringing MM and BM. Both are very good if you play them correctly. Play what you like and play it well.
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You can grey parse and get cutting edge as long as mechanics are done right.
At the same time you cant blame people for voicing their opinion or being unhappy with how far the top and bottom are. Saying it doesnt matter Method brings bm and MM doesnt really make the case as to why balancing is so poor.
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It’s super hard to take close cleave and single target specs and put them into this raid.
Uldir was made for upfront melee range burst cleave.
Now, because multidot specs got screwed in uldir they have spread targets out and they are staying alive longer. Blizzard feeds us maybe 1 or 2 pure single target fights in a raid tier now.
Luckily for affliction locks they are designed to dominate everything. No matter what. Single target sustained? They got it. Single target burst? They got it. Aoe melee burst? They got it. Spread multi dot? They got it.
And so it goes for the last 3 years. No changes here. Everyone else has a niche they must fill locks bring some of the best raid utility in the game plus top meters on the majority of non cheesed progression encounters.
What’s sad… it’s nearly impossible to recruit them.
Long story. Next tier will be designed to favor stacked cleave again which helps a ton compared to spread multi dot… but still… dont count on beating the locks.
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I totally agree I’ve been doing everything I can to increase my numbers and I can pull decent numbers but nothing great compared to other classes that destroy on the meters. This happens every tier we get nerfed into the ground or just given nothing where we fade away. Kinda sickening IMO but what do you do that’s blizzard for ya. I hope they fix this, I think it has something to do with season 2 coming out cause we were pretty competitive in season 1 and now we are falling. Options are now switch to another toon or say screw it and pack it in and maybe next expansion we will be good again
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We are not made to top meters. BM does all things average, but we can do all those things no matter the mechanic.
Looking at logs you are performing very low for your item level. I’m not saying even a very high parse will crush everyone in your guild but you will be more than enough dps to clear all content.
For instance Blockade boss, he throws the soak mechanic far away, no problem disengage to it pop turtle solo soak and cancel turtle. You can dps while you do all of it minus during the 2 seconds for turtle to absorb the damage.
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I’ve chosen not to raid up to this point. But was curious when some of you mention other classes that crush the DPS charts which classes you’re referring to. Hunter will always be my main but I have been looking to level an alt who’s a bit more bursty and damage meter friendly for raiding when I get into it and if hunters haven’t had their issues worked out.
If you could swap your experience played and ilvl to another DPS class which would guys switch over too ?
BM is the only ranged dps who can cast all spells when we are moving without any DPS loss. So it’s fair that we are not the top dps. But there shouldn’t be that much different from the others.
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I never hope to beat aff warlock. But at least let the BM hit the middle level of the ranged dps.
This kind of attitude is why BM is low on DPS. As a pure DPS class where mobility means very little, we should be contenders for the top.
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Definately should be a contender in fights where mobility is an issue for others. However in a stand and cast scenario BM should be outshined by any class that struggles with mobility.
This new raid however isnt as much an issue of mobility as it is multi dot and spread damage. There is no way BM should hope to compete with affliction, destro, balance, shadow or even assassination rogues. The dot classes reign supreme in fights that are spread.
I do 100% believe it is wrong when those classes that excel at multidot also are so close to the top of single target though. (Affliction)
Issue is on paper that sounds great. Mobility offers NOTHING in practice. We are never top dps on any fight, especially these “high mobility” fights everyone is talking about. Why is it ok for classes with multi dot niches to excel at fights that are designed for multi dotting but it’s not ok for our mobility to win out on “high mobility” fights??
This new tier is where we should of shined, it was just that, new. Mechanics unlearned, people reacting to them instead of predicting them and we are still bottom 4 in dps. This shows volumes of how we will not scale at all.
The classes already beating us ( all of them) are already destroying us in this new tier. Imagine when fights get just a bit more familiar and those classes start to get more item level and scale more.
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All 3 hunter specs are dead last in BoD mythic…
warcraftlogs com/zone/statistics/21#
And 2 guilds have done it… your comment is irrelevant
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