They…they have to be there…
You don’t leave that thing un-defended.
Those were the people on guard and the ones that had come with Lor’themar. There were no blood elf pilgrims in the room.
(Commentary): I don’t there there were ever Blood Elf, “Pilgrims,” at all. Because they live in Quel’Thalas and can go there anytime they want.
They were there in the wrath quest. Many of them live in the city, not on the island.
You could conversely take your walk down memory lane while considering the opposite of the antagonism you assume. For it would seem that although the story as written would preclude such heavy involvement of the “High Elves” they continually tried to work them in, and subsequently over represented them, out of a desire to express the civility your assumptions would deny.
After all, it is a fictional world. Blizzard controls not only the narrative but the facts of the story. They would never have reason to misrepresent their own facts.
(Commentary): Well, look at that, they’re called Pilgrims too! Been so long since I did the quest, I swore they had a different name. Thanks for the correction!
I just kind of assume that Lor’themar cleared the venue that evening for his totally-not-a-date with Thalyssra.
(Commentary): While that makes sense, I’m not sure why he wouldn’t ask Alleria to come back later, then.
Because Lor’themar is a wreck and is afraid of intimacy.
(Speculative): I’m not so sure on that point. He’s definitely interested in Thalyssra. I think it’s more of a self confidence issue stemming from the betrayal of Kael’thas and his role in nearly bring down Quel’Thalas by following Kael’thas, let alone never having felt he was worthy to be Regent in the first place.
I really hope this point gets touched on in Shadowlands. With Kael’thas being a presence.
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Seizing power is indeed a requirement. A monarchy can also result in individualism being quashed in the name of the King who rules. hence why they were termed differently.
Considering the presence of blue eyed blood elves such as Lanesh Steelweaver. One can infer that there are high elves who stay. There is nothing to state the high elves were not allowed to stay.
This is a reference to Charlie’s angels. There is nothing indicating he is connected to this void elf team. This is the same for Alleria stronghold. It was named after her, but she herself did not go there.
I’ve already countered your argument about this one. If they were hostile to high elves they would have also been so. They only briefly turn hostile to the player (horde blood elf even) and Auric. They don’t turn hostile to the high elf pilgrims. So this is largely misinterpretation on your part.
Analysis: The lore is directly contradicted by preceding lore and lore afterwards. Thusly, it can be considered error on the writing team, which also became different in Cata.
This is false. Shadows of the sun, warcraft encyclopedia, and chronicles all state flatly that the high elves banished were those who refused to mana tap. SO!
How does it make any sense for the high elves who were not at all present to be exiled when they never made any indication of their views on the matter nor participated.
You have no linking event to them, and the story written out is rather explicit. Holding onto this theory makes little sense and is not supported.
Koltiras is a high elf DK.
He dies during the invasion of quel’thalas and is brought back to life by the lich king. If the high elves are all exiled, including those who were not present for the event a per your statement, then Kol Tiras would have been exiled as well and not allowed to return.
He does return and join his people.
You…do realize every single high elf outside quel’lithien were also deprived of the choice yes? That includes Auric and Alleria who were not even on the same planet.
So if koltiras is excused for not being there due to death, why are the others not excused for…not being there at all either?
Or Alleria? Who was purported to be dead?
Your logic is not consistentand doesn’t make sense story wise.
If high elves are exiles, as you purport, they would not have been allowed to visit. If you are going to cling to the cataclysm argument, then the messengers statement makes it clear that exiles are not allowed to return. At all. Even for the sunwell.
This is supported by the fact that the void elves, prior to being changed, were not allowed to remain in the kingdom or even come near the sunwell. Being an exile means you dont get to go home for anything.
There is nothing to indicate this in any capacity.
This is purely unsupported theory, and considering the lore makes it rather clear that the only people he exiled were those who dividing the people, the high elves such as Vereesa and Alleria are simply not exiles.
A conflict which resulted due to Jaina’s actions in ignoring the Kirin Tor and forcing the conflict. Which she also admits to, not due to a division in high elf and blood elf views.
You mean the silver covenant who are their own group of high elves and not representtive of high elves as a whole who are a scattered people per the encyclopedia?
The same SC that served as a foil for Jaina’s actions?
The same SIlver covenant they came to help the blood elves in Cataclysm because they considered Quel’thalas home?
Who were invited by Halduron who desired reunification of their people?
Who were not exiled because they never had the opportunity to make the choice?
There is a lot of assumptions being made Exacitor.
Actually it did given the story of Quel’dalar and Auric’s statement of having blood elf and high elf unite together behind the champion of quel’dalar. This theme of reunification being maintained and emphasized in multiple iterations.
The only conflict between high elf and blood elf occur due to Jaina, and not high elves alone or due to any exile (which is unsupported).
Well…its a video game. It doesn’t make sense for characters to be present unless its for the gameplay. It is a video game. They’re not going to invest time putting in stuff that doesn’t contribute to it directly. If you want that, youhave the books, in which case, Halduron and Rommath are very much present in the decision making process of quel thalas
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Uhhh, he is heralded as having kept quel’thalas up, it has neverbeen suggested that he nearly brought it down. Remember, he got left behind by kael’thas before he went insane.
Rommath was the one who followed.
Furthermore, the story explains what is going on. He doesn’t have time for himself. He has the pressures of being regent, as well as being a part of the Horde council. He wants to be with Thalyssra but he simply has no time. Its largely been emphasized he is a duty bound cahracter
The dude needs a plucky assistant…or 5.
Yet Void Elves are a playable faction even though they are described as a “crack squad” indicating that their numbers are certainly far less than the Alliance High Elves.
Because their numbers are drawn from Silvermoon, which is large enough to support them.
You guys really take the crack squad comment to heart too much. The numbers never mattered.
Like I said to a previous poster, they are of the same Bloodline, but they are not the same people.
That is like saying that Americans are the same as people from England or Australia. Our three nations came from the same people at once, but they are not the same anymore.
High Elves became tainted by the Fel, which are modern day Blood Elves. They were then cleansed by Holy Magic and now have golden eyes.
The true, untainted, every day I’m walking around with Blue Eyes High Elves are in Dalaran.
The only one being nonsensical here, is you. If you can’t keep up, then that is really a you issue here.
Oh really? While we do have evidence in Telogrus that both Blood Elves and High Elves are interested in studying the void (and possibly joining the Ren’dorei), just how many of Silvermoon’s citizens are willing to defect to keep the Void Elf population stable? I do not think it plausible to think that many Blood Elves are jumping ship.
No…it isn’t.
You see, you can argue that there is a differnt ethnicity between british and americans due to generations.
That doesn’t exist with blood elves and high elves.
They are the same people, ethnicity, origins, and culture.
The y all lived together upuntil a decade or so ago.
But there is no such thing as a true untainted high elf because that also applies to blood elves.
high elves were also in outland which is rich with fel energy so they were touched by it too.
Considering the sunwell affects high elves and blood elves the EXACT same, then bio wise there is literally no difference.
The only thing is name only.
Void elves are the only complete change bio wse since they have no connection to the sunwell any longer.