How is it looking for blood come mythic plus season 3? I don’t see any changes based on my google searching but perhaps I’m not looking in the right place?
On a side note… I’m alchemy/blacksmithing now. Alchemy is great but blacksmithing feels next to useless especially considering I don’t raid and have no way to accumulate the breath of bwinsamdi. Any recommendations on a better alternative, or should I just keep it since I’ve already got it to max level? Thanks guys!
im looking for the same thing.
it feels like dk died this expansion.
rerolled warrior at the end of Legion to try out tanking at the start of BFA. I then wanted to try out a DK a month or two into BFA and it’s just so much more fun to me. What makes you say it’s died? Granted my only experience with them is with blood spec and I never played one prior to this expansion.
well you dont see that many dks anymore, especially blood. most are either warrior/pally/brew
Hmm never knew but then again I’ve really only been tanking. Are there really not that many blood dk’s out there tanking mythic plus? Used to seem that’s what people requested in lfg pug groups at the beginning of the expansion. I don’t see the “prefer blood DK” any more but I still get instant invites to nearly any group I apply to.
When I hop back on my warrior occasionally to run a mythic plus it’s just not as fun. Damage is great but aside from that my DK just feels like the safer bet but then again he is also 13 or so avg ilvl higher.
Im not one to question people’s tastes but how? I’ve tried every spec except Guardian this xpac and BDK damn near puts me to sleep.
I dunno! I think blood DK has the coolest class fantasy and some of the coolest abilities. When I solo the last 20% or so of a boss after everyone wiped to dumb mechanics… feels god mode man. I’d like to try out paladin tanking but then I’d have to play a paladin.
Tis but a flesh wound.
When Season 2 hit I pushed to get the +10 achievement before the start of mythic and just took it easy after that. I’ll be doing the same for Season 3, or maybe trying for the +15 in Season 2 given how late in the tier and season we are.
Bottom line, if you enjoy it then keep on keepin’ on brother!
Plenty of Blood DKs out there. In fact, I would go so far as to say Blood DK is baseline at the moment. But the reason why Warrior’s are played much more is because they do more damage. With 3.5 DPS you don’t need to tank as much as the DK does, as m+ packs are killed that much quicker. Combined with being slow, we just got left behind, though not killed off. I would probably order tanks as being Warrior > Pally = DK > Monk > DH > Druid.
BDK is still powerful and near top tier in M+, but it is not a prot warrior and you can expect to continue to be very squishy and spiky health at times
prot warrior physical damage mitigation is severely underestimated among the pug M+ community
I guess maybe if I had a group of people I ran with consistently who used voice chat maybe things would be different. But blood DK just feels so much better in the random mythic pugs I join.
Any time I have the chance/desire to get on my warrior to do a 10 for the week it seems painful. Maybe it’s a combination of I’m not that good at the class, I’m only 401 ilvl, and I don’t get into the more we’ll geared/higher raider io groups. But for me personally Blood just feels “safer” in pugs overall.
I will give Warrior the edge on boss fights with high physical dmg. One place I can think of as a good example is tyrannical Yazma’s “skewer” in Atal Dazar. It’s never a problem on DK because I just pool up rp for multiple death strikes but on my warrior with ip and shield block doesn’t chunk me near as bad.
If you’re talking about plannable big damage mechanics yes BDK will win over prot warrior, such as skewer on yazma in AD
But i’m talking more about consistent smaller chunks of damage intake, most notably auto-attacks from a variety of trash mobs and bosses, where the combination of high baseline armor + block + critical block is extremely powerful for prot warrior before you even factor in IP (where you should be spending most of your rage anyways). If you want to pull big and most of the damage intake is through these steady sources then again prot warrior wins easily over BDK.
Also as gear improves prot warriors will continue to get higher uptime on their defensive cooldowns (also offensive with avatar + demo shout) due to anger management, most notably with last stand + bolster talent allowing 100% block chance for the full duration. BDKs will always be stuck with the fixed cooldown times on their defensive/offensive cooldowns.
So overall unless its something isolated and planned you can time death strike for, and assuming you are playing prot warrior decently (rage gen, not wasting cooldowns, good IP uptime, good azerite traits, high haste, etc.) I don’t see how BDK is more ‘safe’ in the vast majority of M+ situations.
Well thanks for that input, never thought of that aspect of warriors scaling that much better and why. That explains a lot. I guess why I feel blood is “safer” feeling to me is in pugs sometimes the healer is off watching tv or something it seems. I feel like I have more control over my health and bloods cd’s do feel more powerful even though a warriors may be available more often? As I said before maybe I really need to gear up my warrior some more and practice the class to really be able to realize it’s potentials.
Thanks again!
The BDK has that self-healing because their damage intake, at least versus physical is far higher. You won’t survive long without a decent healer either in challenging content (challenging for your ilvl).
All the prot warrior cooldowns (4 of them) are very powerful and will be available increasingly more as they gear up. On top of that spell reflection is very underutilized by the pug M+ community and downright broken on what it can do on some bosses like tyrannica lord waycrest.
Hit the nail on the head, getting a consistent group of people you play with and communicate over comms with makes a world of difference.
I’ve yet to play with a good DK tank.
Not really.
Prot War, Prot Pal, and even to an extent BrM all bring more to the table right now.