Should buff base apoc dam by like 800% (it hits for like 80k rn) & buff SS/Clawing dam
Could throw in a small coil buff as well
Should the class with perma chains, two grips (shouldn’t exist), 90% area slow with two charges, blanket silence (lmfao), spell immunity (can now give it to teammates lol) , aoe blind, etc etc…should that class also do the most damage?
UHDK is probably my all around fav spec in the game aesthetically and gameplay wise (for the most part) but uhhh yeah this class is so over designed and obnoxious. Be wary of any dmg buffs 
No MS should mean it does giga dam
Defile slow starts at 90% goes down 10% every second
AMS breaks like insta so not to sure what you are on about
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we either do gigga dam, have a real mortal strike, or have kidney shot.
mind you, feral rn has all 3.
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I think dk should get the same treatment warrior got, gradual removal of the early expansion nerfs until they are in a decent state. Last thing we need is something like +20% to all dk damage, tipping the scale and causing dk to dethrone feral as the “every comp would be better with this spec”. I really think all things being equal, the game is in a pretty decent spot tuning wise.
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That’s what warrior just got….
Would take a lot more than a 20% buff for dk to overtake the feral throne
No one even mentions frost anymore lol.
Poor battered FDK.
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Sorry OP, but if DK being bad keeps Amatox hard stuck 2k I’m happy with the state of things.
Either you or someone else suggested this in another thread and I think it’s a great idea. Buffing anything to actually reward being in melee range and not just passively killing everything with diseases is a super good knob to tune imo. I think it’d need to be a significant buff, but still probably the safest way to buff the class.
Fdk is literally better than unholy right now, it’s just cancer to play.
By what measure?
Also, better than unholy does mean it is good right now.
You got that right!
Revert undk nerfs but make teammate ams 1 min cd instead of 30 seconds
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Lets not be too hasty 
It’s wild to me how Blizz is too much of a coward to just outright ban tanks in rated arenas.
Whenever one is even slightly competitive, they infuriate all the players and eventually get them nerfed anyway, so why not just skip all of this headache and ban them from competing in rated arenas?
i completely agree with this if they made teammate ams a seperate button like a zarya shield.
rn you literally throw away ur own ams whenever u use it… such a poorly designed talent.
This sounds cool gonna level mine now and be a toxic blood dk.
band aid fix would be putting necro strike back in the game but idunno think i’d prefer them buffing base ss/clawing dam
Started my journey last night back on my dk. Hit lvl 71 tanking a dungeon and called it a night. Soon I’ll be gripping ur healers into the shadow realm
Winrates, particularly at higher ratings and tournament play.
Oh god, no. It’s just that it has a real win-con where unholy doesn’t, really.
I actually think this is a good design. Shouldn’t be able to cloak of shadows yourself and a teammate. I’m all for giving dk buffs, because it needs them, but AMS being a 30s cd is pretty insane.
Again, I think this would need to be a fairly significant buff to make up for the massive disease + coil nerfs, but I do think it’s 100% the best thing to buff & tune accordingly.
yea would be very busted to have 2 ams like that. i think the way u can balance it is with a longer cd? like 1 min, 1min 15, 1min 30 depending on how fat the shield is