Has anyone had a chance to play with it in the beta? Is 1 hero class better than the other for pvp or pvm?
Initial thoughts on both?
I haven’t bothered to play BDK in the beta, pvp or otherwise, but I don’t know how any self-respecting Blood could play anything else but San’layn.
Dorki, Yoda, and I’m sure others all have videos of playing it in the beta. Based on the Wowhead article that just came out, it appears Deathbringer is the better option, but I can’t say with any firsthand knowledge.
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San’Layn was gigachad OP. They saldy nerfed it too much and is not worth using compared to Deathbringer.
The main issue with San’layn from my own testing, is it being tied to vamp blood. It pretty much forces you to use it on rotation rather than as a defensive.
I think it would be miles more fun if tied to DWR since that has offensive cdr as well. It is playbale regardless if just doing your 10s for the week for gear. But Deathbringer at least imo is more fun and looks cooler too with the animations.
But like you said, there are plenty of guides for it online and Dorki has some good info on it too.
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I exclusively PvP and I use the Last Dance talent, so that’s exactly what I’ve done. Vampiric Blood is off the GCD and lines up almost perfectly with a 30-ish second DRW cd. The duration is about the same as well.
Say’layn will be far better for PvP than Deathbringer.
- +17.5% Haste
- +28% Death Strike damage increase.
- Vampiric Strike deals shadow damage, which bypasses armour while Dancing Rune Weapon also copies Vampiric Strike - so even more extra damage during burst windows.
- Incite Terror increases all shadow damage by 5% - and increases Vampiric Strike damage by 20%.
- Infliction of Sorrow effectively has no damage cap due to Essence of the Bloodqueen having 100% uptime. You can hit for over a million - providing no dispell.
Say’layn is unhealthy though. I think a few changes would make it much better.
Essence of the Blood Queen (Maximum Stacks): 5 > 3
Frenzied Bloodthirst (Maximum Stacks): 7 > 5
Vampric Strike Chance: 10% > 15% - 20%
Vampiric Blood cooldown associated with Essence of the Bloodqueen changed to Dancing Rune Weapon.
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How are people getting 100% uptime with vampiric blood?
Sorry - 100% uptime on Essence of the Blood Queen.
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Death bringer on paper looks like it would be so good for pvp if not for the internal 3 min cooldown on reapers mark exploding. I think I will give Saylayn a shot.
It looks more consistent. but I am just speculating
Deathbringer is just better in pve. Should not prevent anyone playing Sanlayn but that’s just how it is right now
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