First off, I am against removing content from the game or anything that diminishes one’s ability to enjoy the game at their own pace. For many years I’ve advocated for the return of limited time rewards, and gotten into many arguments that all boil down to “Blizzard doesn’t bring back skill based rewards ever”.
This week we learned that Horrific Visions are coming back along with the associated “the Faceless One” title. This title was earned through a piece of skill based solo content tuned for the original corruption mechanics in the last season of BfA. Blizzard communicated it would be permanently removed at the beginning of Shadowlands. There were pieces of visions that were still completable after the launch of Shadowlands, but the title was meant to be a limited time reward for people who played BfA.
In my opinion, it’s time for Blizzard to make a stance that they are going to bring back limited time rewards when appropriate. It’s not fair to the people that earn one set of limited time rewards that one piece of content is brought back with the rewards they earned and others are brought back without the rewards, or not brought back at all.
They just did. This one was appropriate to them. So they brought it back.
Others aren’t appropriate, apparently.
I think people need to just stop caring. All of this is usually about the stupid Mage Tower appearances and it’s getting tiresome. Most of them don’t even look that good anyway. And it’s four appearances out of hundreds upon hundreds. Yet here we are, people still mad they’re not back or mad if people want them back.
I absolutely think old tier/enchants should come back. It’s never made sense to me why mythic raid mogs and the mythic mount are farmable, but PvP rewards require you to play every season or miss out.
I can replay Pokemon White any time I want and experience it exactly like it was when it came out.
I can not sit down and win the 2021 Pokemon World championships, because those already happened in the past.
PvE content feels more like the first scenario than the second, so it feels more natural that those rewards shouldn’t have gone away, and\or should be brought back, when in reality the limitation is just as arbitrary in both scenarios.
The anger was unjustified before they brought the tower back. Blizz said it was a limited time thing, and that was a done deal. Whiners before Legion TW needed to simply get over it. But then they brought the challenge back, in its original form! Now, I think people wanting them back is completely justifiable. It’s the same challenge for not the same reward.
And this part is completely subjective. I think they are some of the best looking weapon appearances in the game, by far. And before the fel bear was introduced, the mage tower werebear was unique and unobtainable any other way.
Four base appearances, plus all the color variations. So what is that, 16 total? For a single spec? So if you unlocked every single appearance + colors on one character, that’s a total of 48 appearances, assuming you’re on a 3 spec class. That’s a lot of appearances for a mog enthusiast or collector to be missing out on.
edit: I mathed wrong, it’d be 12 per char, but that’s still a lot!
It all boils down to the fact the tower returned but the rewards didn’t. The anger is justified, imo.
Mmm. Not even as an easily farmed thing that just has a 1% drop rate for reason ala old mythic raid mounts.
There are some old PvP sets I’d love to get my hands on but while it’s perfectly ok to farm old Mythic tier appearances, can’t ever let old PvP appearances be available ever again
I’m ok with that. But… here I thought PvE titles, mounts and achievements = PvP titles, mounts and achievements… not Conquest gear that you can get just by dilligently doing the weekly quests during a season…
It’s just, gear in PvP isn’t the same as gear in PvE.
Having your full set/BiS merely means you’re ready to get started in PvP.
In PvE, that might more or less signal you’ve already beaten everything lol.
It’s just different.
We’re rewarded with a cosmetic set by reaching a specific rating, rather than just being given tier pieces over time.
Which is why I say PvP elite appearances are equivalent to M+ mounts, because they’re both obtained via rating, and both disappear at the end of a season.
PvE top-end tier gear can be seen as equal to the non-FOMO conquest PvP sets, a means to an end.
So… my point remains. PvP transmog remains unattainable once the season ends, along with the season’s titles, achievements and mounts (excluding viscious saddle mounts), while PvE transmog is kept attainable, along with most titles, achievements and mounts (excluding M+ mounts and hall of fame achievements and titles).
I’m not even asking for the mounts and titles. Just the transmog. Though in all honesty, you’re welcome to also claim the M+ mounts as farmable or something if you like. Heck, you can have mage tower weapons and such, too (i have them all anyway). I’m cool with you getting stuff in return.