1/3rd of all alliance plays on Benediction. They also abuse the queue system by queueing in groups of 5 at the same time to snipe the same game.
The current system is working as intended, you just don’t understand how people abuse that system. Keep in mind Alliance was queue sniping for a vast majority of vanilla ranking in AV.
(1/3)^3 is 1/27, or 3.7%. so even if you’re saying it’s just 3 5-man groups, we should only see 15/15 Benediction 3.7% of the time, or only once ever 27 games.
in reality it’s about 1 in every 2-3 games. so your hypothesis is definitively wrong.
also wow, it’s terrifying how numerically illiterate the general population is. this is like 7th-grade math here…
My “hypothesis” is what they literally brag about doing. They queue in groups of 5 to subvert the “premade queue”.
Go read the bluepost about it before you comment again, thank you.
Yep, I thought it was Blizzard and the queuing (Yeah looks like I incorrectly blamed Blizzard there) but these groups seem to be doing the queue syncing to bypass the premade wait.
Which many of the alliance obviously know how to queue sync because they were queue syncing AV at the end of Classic to premade, and it’s not hard to share how to do it.
Somebody even mentioned this would happen in a thread to Blizzard when premade vs premade was announced.
Marvingale mentioned the queue syncing (thanks) and also said “We will do whatever we can to get honor as alliance” then in the next post blamed the large Bene pop again. However, he even said that they get AvA games and one of the teams throws the game! Which is not allowed by the way. Queue syncing is allowed, win trading is not.
See:
People should just be honest with what they are doing. Maybe Marvingale mostly pugs games but this is obviously happening.
Blizzard have been issuing band aid fixes for the queue system from the start, every fix so far is flawed in some way.
If you really think that this is such a huge problem what you suggest blizzard to do? Every change so far has created loopholes.
I personally think that premade priority queues are bad, specially with same faction BGs. This leads to the 5 man queue sync meta and punishes horde players since most of the time they are playing against themselves. If you let anyone premade without having to wait 20 minutes in queue at least it’s gonna be fair for all sides.
I think all the games I did today was in some form of a benediction premade. Not good premades , defeated them a few time . The problem is people that give up right away when they see premade . Premades vs premades would be fair , I think it would affect the queu’s greatly .
That’s cool, just don’t say stuff like “Full Benediction groups are usually all pugs.”
Then in the other post you talk about it and this one you call it a meta. I legit do respect that you mentioned this being a thing.
The middle 2 posts are not needed though because it’s clearly not all about 43% of one faction deciding to create a zergish Retail clone server and therefore all alliance are on Bene, because allies aren’t all on Bene. You forgot about all the PVE servers in your statement or something.
You guys probably say in your Discord that if anyone questions it to say that everyone is on Bene. Like we’re going to all buy that.
Queue syncing in Disc is NOT pugging.
Anyway, at least an interesting convo came because of something your server is doing, for once.
It’s pretty rare since the changes to prioritize premade vs premade. I don’t think issue is that bad anymore. Maybe 1 in 10 games for me vs a premade.
What sucks is I can’t pvp with my guildies anymore becuase it puts us up against premade after premade and my guildies don’t have much in the way of pvp gear. Forced to solo queue to have a fair game sucks.
prevent 15/15 premades from being paired against solo-queue groups
make it so that there can only be ONE premade 5-group per battleground.
problem solved. BGs are fair again for solo-queuers.
Why does this game have to be fair? WoW has been the most broken game since it’s inception, and you’ll never be on the same playing field as everyone else. God forbid people get rewarded for playing this game socially.
because we’re paying customers and deserve to be treated fairly.
I planned to do casual PvP through all of TBC. The metasheep ruined that plan.
Folks either want to AFK or have a pre-made team do the work for them.
So… I’m casually leveling in SoM.
The only way to fix is to end BGs and make people world pvp.
the thing is, for a while blizz prevented 15/15 groups from fighting against solo-queuers. like, they literally already admitted it was a problem, and fixed it, but then (for some reason) un-fixed it and re-implemented the problem.
I agree. if you Que as a premade it should not give you a match until it finds another premade of = amount of people. If you que as 10 you don’t get a que pop until it matches against another group of 10. It’s not hard to fix the que system to make it semi enjoyable.
Nah. Enable war mode, have people who turn it on all go to the same realms with some phasing or something, turn off BGs, increase honor per kill and remove badge requirements. There you go, your problem is solved.
It’s the system they still have, you just have poor reading comprehension:
Alliance are abusing the 5 man queues and queueing at the same time.
You got that right… LOL
Nothing says fun like running into a WSG to have a great time and have it ruined by the opposing team being completely kitted out in full arena pvp gear…
okay then this problem needs to be fixed. simply: allow only one 5-man pre-made group per each team in a battleground. problem solved.
And then they queue in 3 sets of 4.
There shouldn’t be any restrictions on premades because the people that actually obey those restrictions are the ones that get boned.