I got banned for a week for afking in AV and they were pretty clear about why (though I pretty much already knew )
And I saw a guy jsut a couple days ago going on about how he was suspended because people were taking advantage of the report system and getting him auto flagged. Until the GM hopped in and clarified that it was actually numerous reports from his guildies who apparently didn’t appreciate how he talks to people.
Numerous other examples. But people ignore them because it doesnt fit their narrative.
You said it could be a graphical glitch, and then went on about how the report wasn’t accurate enough.
Let’s play pretend. You’re a cop and you and your partner are called out to a domestic violence call. You bust in the door and walk in to personally witness the husband choking the wife and she has a blood nose.
Your partner moves in and takes the suspect to the ground and reaches for his handcuffs.
It’s at this point that you say, “Whoa there partner! Not so fast, I have a few questions about all this.” Your partner looks up at you while trying to restrain the suspect. “Alright Piper, but make it quick.”
“Thanks bud, but here’s the deal. How are we sure we actually saw what we did? I mean, he may have simply been slipping and trying to hold himself up by her neck, or we don’t really know how her nose got broken. Restraining this gentleman seems quite hasty.”
“In fact, and you’re gonna laugh Kowalski, but I’ve been reading some of those French Existentialists and it’s really caused me to question a bunch of things. How do we even know this is real? There’s a good chance this might all be a mass delusion or dream. So yeah, release him dream partner. Let’s get some ice cream.”
“And lady, next time you call 911 try to be more accurate. Simply stating that your name is Jane Doe and your husband John Doe is attacking you at your home on 123 South Main Street, and that John Doe’s date of birth is 1/1/1980 and that he’s a caucasian male 5’10 180 lbs brown hair and green eyes and that he has a tattoo of “Dale” on his neck is a start but jesus lady do you actually expect us to do anything with such little information.”
Piper then shoots the family dog on the way out the door, just to be sure.
Of course we notice, and we’ve been fighting them for the better part of two decades now. As long as players continue to give them money - they are like cockroaches and have a vested interest in returning.
The only way for them not to return - is for there to be no reason for them to - i.e., people need to stop giving them money.
That would certainly be the most effective means of stopping it. If there wasn’t a market for the goods or services, they wouldn’t spend the time and effort doing it.
The folks with the power to do something are already well aware of the issue and are constantly working to address it. Please continue to use the right click report option when you are able.
“Could” being the operative word. Doesn’t mean that it is. I’m just saying, there are many possibilities of something occurring that doesn’t always mean “bot”.
It wasn’t. It didn’t say WHERE nor WHEN this occurred.
False equivalency. It’s not the same level, of what we’re talking about.
Basically yea… but its an interesting analogy. Blizzard has basically gone through all the same struggles as the drug war. They tried outright prohibition initially but that wasn’t feasible. In retail they’ve tried legalization via WOWtoken but that has had a marginal impact because the black market is still cheaper.
So now they’re trying to focus more on the consumer side. Try to raise awareness of the secondary damage the industry has (bots etc) and encourage reporting of violaters while asking the community to stop funding the businesses that feed the problem.
Basically though you’re correct… We could devote more resources and/or fight it more efficiently… but you’re not gonna stop botting any more than you’re gonna stop the illicit drug trade.
Not particularly relevent but… I think you’ve probably got that backwards. The street sets the value, and the legal businesses work up or down from that.
The price of MJ has been static more or less for decades. It’s no coincidence that when legal dispensaries set up they were usually within a reasonable margin of that price.
The problem with the Wow token is it’s just hard to set. You set it too high and the black market just undercuts you to the point no one buys tokens. You set it too low, and you create massive deflation and the black market eventually ends up undercutting you again anyway… and in the meantime people end up with $2000 Blizzard balances (and no one ever needs to buy a subscription ever again and your game dies.) So its a tricky rope to walk…
What they need to do is combine the WOW token with hard enforcement of 3rd party RMT policies (even if temporarily) which would create a larger incentive to buy the token even if it’s not necessarily the most cost effective option. You’ll still have a degree of a P2Win system, but realistically you’re always going to have that with RMT trading… and this at least will take the power/money out of the hands of the botters.
But then you’re back to how do you reliably police RMT trading? I think its much more feasible than trying to combat botting directly… but still far from an easy job.
Except that even if a third party undercuts blizzard they don’t bring the legitimacy to it. An in game interface to buy plus not having to go through a shady third party makes that a little bit harder to compete with.
nah thats honestly fair.
my comment is more about the fact that once a token is put into the game, the black market is just going to undercut it and make themselves look like the better option for those willing to purchase gold.
the point is ultimately the market value will be set by who can actually sell the most product in this sense, typically the larger cartel or drug lord in the neighborhood will command and decree the values for product. in this case probably still going to be the larger gold seller sites.
honestly, i hate what im about to type and do not like it, the best thing for blizzard would be to introduce their own services for players that want to capitalize off said services and then harshly punish anyone who uses outside blizzard authorized services. this would drive down outside interference but would make for a very very different game.
Fwiw gold from trusted third party resellers is about half the price of gold sold by Blizzard.
Blizzard has done nothing to solve this problem, especially by cutting out virtually every possible raw gold farm from the game. The WoW token solves nothing.
It’s way more complicated if the front line of their anti cheat is 100% automated so that some guy doesn’t have to get paid to investigate obviously suspicious behavior. Blizzard’s anti cheat is an automated process that may or may not correctly determine cheating, and their back up is encouraging players to report suspicious activity.
That last part is fine until you realize how much they’re leaning on their own players, the people paying a monthly fee to be provided a service, to be the human side of their anti cheat system. This company has its customers paying fees so that they can log in and effectively save Blizzard money by reporting bots that their automated anti cheat doesn’t catch, because there isn’t a Blizzard employee actively investigating bots outside of player issued reports.
It’s only a travesty and it’s only the exploitation of customers from a company trying to save a buck.
The character that’s been floating over WS for weeks casting eagle eye. “Could” have been a graphical glitch. Seems like a reasonable take lol. Glad you’re here to be the voice of reason and logic
I’ll say it again… You have literally no way to know that AND they have specifically stated otherwise. So if you’re accusing their CM’s of outright lying… I’d assume you have something more to go on than your “beliefs.” Riiiight?
Community policing/crowd-sourcing is pretty common in every industry in the universe. Heck… the dang FBI was asking for people’s help identifying suspects in the Capital riots… How dare they… I PAY TAXES!1!
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