Blizzard Souls-like

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Wouldn’t this be a cool game type for blizzard to approach? Not enough big developers approach the genre seriously enough and it’s kind of the ultimate action rpg gameplay formula.

I’d like to see what blizzard could do with their game development power in that style. It would be extremely interesting both mechanically, technologically, and in the sense that we could get a completely new universe with its own lore from blizzard again.

3rd person arpg, basically just copying the dark souls formula 1:1 only with their own creative direction, assets, and stat balances. There’s no need to try to be fundamentally different than from software, they could do the exact same thing in a blizzard way with original creative assets.

There are only so many ways you can design a good action rpg’s inputs with a controller and it’s not like from software owns the button inputs or gameplay design. They own the animations and balance of their game. If blizzard made their own animations and tuned the game themselves then there’s no issue with replicating the very same style of game their own way.

I really want to see more big companies taking on from software’s formula for action rpg. I think it is truly the pinnacle of video gaming. Nothing in any other game really compares to the feeling their boss fights and combat in general has to offer. Through extremely simplistic controls, they are able to create extremely complex and dynamic combat design. Nobody else has been able to compete with from software so far, maybe blizzard is able to shake things up.

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With Blizzard, not really. I don’t see them making this sort of game unless it’s really dumbed down or simplified. Blizzard has a habit of cloning games and making them easier. Overwatch (tf2 clone) and WoW (Everquest) can tell you that much.

I do agree that more big companies should make more Souls-likes. Waiting on Remnant 2.

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I’m confused because, it doesn’t get simpler than souls-like for gameplay. Think of the inputs. You have a dodge button, a health potion/item button, a heavy attack trigger, a light attack bumper, a special attack trigger, a block bumper, a stance modifier button, and an interact button.

Sure the games are hard, but they are dumbed down and simplified as much as they could possibly be. WoW is about 1000000x more complex than dark souls gameplay wise. Difficulty and complexity are two different concepts.

There’s no reason blizzard shouldn’t approach this genre other than because they don’t want to be seen as “unoriginal”.

Also, OW and WoW are about 1000000x more successful than TF2 and EQ. Case in point.

Remnant is not a souls-like either, what dark souls did you play lol? Like seriously the more I look at remnant gameplay and reread your post, what dark souls did you play? If you ever played a from software game at all?

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They have no experience with it and they have stated they are more concerned with subscription based games. Can they make one? Sure. Will they make one? Probably not.

There is literally a “souls like” genre of games so I think plenty of developers take the game style seriously.

I honestly want fromsoftware to go back to their roots and make another King’s Field although make the character walk faster as they are no longer limited by playstation hardware to keep the FPS down.

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Name one good soulslike that isn’t made by from software… Oh wait there isn’t one. All these indie fan projects are lacking.

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NIOH from Team Ninja
I don’t play these games but it has
88 metascore
8.3 user review

reviews state
Hellishly challenging and entertaining tribute to the From Software games.

Saying that Nioh is a “Souls clone” not only doesn’t do justice to a superb game, but can be quite misleading. Nioh stands on its own as a masterpiece from Team Ninja that reminds us the Ninja Gaiden glory days of the studio.

Nioh has a lot to offer with its deep combat system, and it’s an overall addicting action game for fans of Ninja Gaiden and Dark Souls.

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Played both nioh games and they are extremely technical compared to dark souls. I would not call them a souls-like. Nioh is its own thing entirely.

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you would not but it seems virtually all professional reviewers and other gamers would

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“professional reviewers” known to be some of the worst gamers in the entire field lol.

Never heard someone who is actually good at souls games say that nioh is comparable. It’s a third person action rpg, yeah. It’s not a soulslike.

You don’t even play these games as you said in an earlier post. You do not know what you are talking about.

Saying that Nioh is a “Souls clone” not only doesn’t do justice to a superb game, but can be quite misleading.

It’s like you just copy and pasted some google nioh article without even reading it yourself lol. Yikes.

At any rate, I’m not interested in your perspective and you aren’t willing to respect my opinion. Please move on. You do not play these games and aren’t engaging in this thread for the right reasons. You came in and tried to derail with your own desire for the cringe kingsfield gameplay, while putting down my thread’s purpose. Make your own thread in the from software forums if you want kingfields.

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This is Blizzard were talking about. Don’t underestimate their ability to simplify things further. Trust me.

Ya know the whole ‘Easy mode’ debate that’s been circiling about around FromSoft? That’s pretty much Blizzard’s go-to move there if they would ever make one.

…How can they be hard if their dumbed down? Doesn’t dumbed down usually refers to difficulty?..

Ehh, i don’t know how complex is pushing 1, 2, and 3 is to pressing buttons on a controller or Keyboard to Attack, Dodge and etc… but … okay.

…Nobody has ever made the argument of “They don’t want to be seen as unoriginal”.

It’s not a genre i would see Blizzard get into because, few odd Remnants aside, the genre has a reputation of being difficult. I mean, there’s a reason why the meme “X is the dark souls of Y” thing exists. Because it would just be more of a joke if the genre is populated with games that are easy. And with Blizzard’s making things popular (well, used to be popular in a good sense), this might send a bit of a ripple to the genre. And gamers tend to care about this genre.

Not to mention, Blizzard is going after the causal market most of the time. How many casual gamers are playing Soulslikes enough for Blizzard to be considered a valid option for them? Unironically, Blizzard would have more of a valid reason to make a sports game like Madden or FIFA then a Souls-like, because more casual people play there. I.E money for them.

Because this is Blizzard. They take stuff and simplify it and it makes them money and success.

What are you talking about? You have a dark and gloomy world with obscured lore, a game that revolves around you dying to enemies or bosses until you learn their patterns or “git gud” at dodge rolling like crazy, you got campfires (or gem things) to respawn at, and you got RPG elements that wouldn’t be out of place in a Dark souls game. The only difference is you have guns.

Granted, it’s not as hard as Dark Souls or any Fromsoft game, or other soulslikes even, but it’s not as easy as other games i’ve played prior either. This is pretty much my first Soulslike.

But to act like the only good Soulslike is from only FromSoft is backwards.

It’s like acting like FF14 is the only good MMORPG in town, or CoD is the only good FPS, or Super Mario as the only good platformer.

Plus, you’re the one who made this thread, asking Blizzard to make one, and yet you’re sitting here going…

So which is it? You want Blizzard to make a Souls-like or what?

Played as in “put more time beyond the 2 hour mark and kept the game” or played at all regardless the time i’ve put into?

Because if you’re using that to determine whether i have a right to talk about this, then you’re being foolish. I mean changing definitions to suit your own arguments is already pretty foolish, since you’re practically saying that any Souls-like that isn’t made by FromSoft as “Not a soulslike” or “Lacking” or however you want to dismiss them, while at the same time, asking Blizzard to make a soulslike.

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I’m guessing by your comments you are probably 15 or so. You seem to think your opinion is more valid than others even if you are clearly in the minority and against people who get paid for their opinions as opposed to people who just offer them to anyone who doesn’t care for them. That said this entire thread is nothing more than an immature hissy fit because you want a fromsoftware like game and refuse any other games from other studios in that genre. It makes one wonder why you would want blizzard to attempt such a game if you are against any other studio from making them but fromsoftware?

Yeah, that’s exactly what I did when I said

Did you think I made up reviews and posted them off from other people? You are very simple minded.

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Holy TLDR by two out of touch “gamers”. Go troll someone else, you’re clearly not interested in this thread and you clearly don’t know what a souls-like is. Barieldor never even played dark souls for more than an hourLOL. Literally thinks remnant is a soulslike what a pretender.

“I don’t know anyhting about thesee games but aren’t tehy really hard anddifficult? Doesn’t difficult mean complex? I mean I never played these games but it cant be much different than remnant huh? 1 2 3 same as 3 buttons surely.”

Which WoW classes are you playing that only have 3 buttons? Hardstuck on level 6 in WoW?

Just stop posting in this thread you both are permabad at dark souls.

Yeah, that’s exactly what I did when I said

Maybe next time you should read what you link before you copy and paste it then? I don’t know what to say that’s cringe. It sounds like you still haven’t read what it said since you still think nioh is a soulslike. I’d rather be simple-minded than flat out ignorant and wrong.

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Well your both, and this thread you’ve made is just made to troll confirmed by you, so…

  • Causing disturbances in forum threads, such as picking fights, making off topic posts that ruin the thread, insulting other posters
  • Creating threads for the sole purpose of causing unrest on the forums

Correction, he’s simpleminded and wrong, and just plain inane.

Darby: “I want Blizzard to make a soulslike!”

Also Darby: “Anybody who made a soulslike is crap! If you disagree, that means you’ve never played Dark Souls! REE!!!”

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But did you ever play a from software game for more than 2 hours?