The rewards designer, who worked on the Fated season.
Please provide an MMO that rivals WoW in terms of playable content AND quality of content for various types of players.
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Dragonflight is the first expansion that has moved away from those ‘gimmicky systems’, and towards more evergreen systems.
Class Designers are not the people making raids and dungeons and quests. I’m not sure why you’re suggesting that we could have a raid tier if only they didn’t rework rogues or whatever.
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Sorry, you don’t seem to understand.
A quest designer will not be as good as an encounter designer compared to an actual encounter designer. A sound engineer is significantly underskilled to implement Class Talents.
Different skills to pay the bills, my friend. There’s a reason why other studios poach from Blizzard. They’re still quite good at what they do.
The OP backed his opinion… by quoting someone else’s opinion…
I have an opinion, too.
I think Fated Raids are great. They give people something to do during the end of the expansion.
What is you tlakin’ ‘bout?
What do you consider proper? BfA and Legion didn’t have anything special, as far as I can think of. Just long final raid tiers. Same with MoP and WoD.
Wrath had the Ruby Dragon shrine after Icecrown… if you want to count that.
The whole Fated system is better than nothing. Those have been our options.
At least Fated Raids give us some fun things to play with (like trinkets and weapons being equal from the various raids) and new rewards to work for (like the jelly cat).
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Because it’s not binary like you seem to think it is. I enjoy this game and have for many years and therefore I play it. That doesn’t cloud the fact that they also do extremely lazy or shady things while asking for a full sub from their dwindling playerbase.
I honestly don’t understand how you don’t understand that you can enjoy 90% of a thing and yet still see the issues in that remaining 10%. Enjoying the 90% does not blind me to the rest of the issues; why are Aug hooks broken even when they weren’t as broken before 10.2 for example.
They gave us a pretty great 2023 but 2024 is shaping up to be a massive L and fated has a LOT to do with that. I’m not a huge raider and even I think a year between raid releases is far too long.
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so youd rather have 4 more months of season 3. with like 1 patch of story content and one last one for pre patch before the next expansion like on bfa/legion/wod do you remember wod last season?
Citation needed.
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It would be nice to know what the fated season is going to entail at this point. My minimum expectation is having another m+ season and reprogging razageth heroic until the expansion ends, but its odd that we only really know we’re getting a fated season without the more pertinent details. And by that I mean we don’t know:
the m+ pool
whether the raids will have affixes.
whether the legendaries are upgradable and if they are how the upgrade will take effect.
whether the dinar system is coming back or the form it will come back in.
when the fated season is coming.
What the seasonal rewards will be.
Misc things that will likely be added to spice up the season that might or might not exist because blizzard has had two years to think about how to do another fated season and it looks like just rehashing the shadowlands model of it might turn off a chunk of the playerbase due to perceived lack of effort.
And it feels like it should be coming soonish so it is a bit weird to have no foreknowledge for once. Though if the intent is to start limiting the datamining and such I don’t mind it.
If you find you don’t have anything you want to do in game during the fated season, then unsubscribe. Seriously. Not being snarky.
If there is nothing to do that interests you, save your money, and send a message that you will only subscribe when you have an all new Raid/Dungeon season.
The old devs were known for content patches/raid tiers right up until the end of the expansion!
https://i.imgur.com/PvBiKVM.png
Someone feel free to repost the picture. <3
Edit : didnt see it was already posted.
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you should uncrop the line where it shows how long the last “content patch” lasted on the old expansions tho
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Needs a label lol
So you’d prefer to go back to thirteen months of Siege of Orgrimmar?
I dont know what you are referring to.
I figured the number of days was self explanatory.
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The purpose of fated raids in the end season is to provide content for the kinds of players who might be in a position to do that content, only some of whom will be interested enough to do that content. It provides no content for players who raid but aren’t interested, and especially no content for those who aren’t in a position to do recycled raids, ie solo players, casuals, and especially not solo players who are casuals. This is how fated content was designed in Shadowlands, and it was a factor in convincing non-raiders to go on hiatus and not buy DF. Apparently this worked so successfully in purging those players from the game that they decided to repeat the process.
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But the argument still always comes back to how is that different than what we got before fated raids were introduced.
The people who don’t raid are getting the exact same amount of content that they got in previous expansions. (In the final patch, not overall, but that is a different conversation)
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What are you talking about? There has never been as robust and novel gameplay at the end of an expansion as the fated season in SL, my dude. They created a new M+/PvP season after the release of the final tier in BfA, but that was pretty much it. Every other expansion prior just had a long final tier with a content drought, sometimes pronounced, as was the case at the end of Mists and Wardads.
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you get 3 rescaled raids and 8 dungeons to regear and reclear. instead of another 4 months of the same content which is already fully cleared.
i personally enjoy going back to the old raids rescaled with the affixes.
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You don’t think the existence of fated raids is different from previously, before they were created?
Also, more earlier patch content is now inaccessible and will not be soloable. If you could come up with a Zaralek Caverns equivalent in previous expansions to make old patches impossible to be complete that would an illustration. Also, the removal of the slime kitty mount achievement from Shadowlands LFR after players resubbed to get it was legitimately taken as a slap in the face.