Blizzard sent me a survey tonight about "fresh" Classic/TBCC

who cares. none of your concerns amount to any compelling reason why we shouldn’t have fresh servers, sorry.

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In an ideal world you’d be right

In an ideal world we don’t have mage boosters and gold sellers in the first place

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I think this is the perfect place to discuss this because we need to give them feedback in hopes they see it because it looks like behind the scenes they may be already working on it.

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None of your concerns amount to any compelling reason why we should have fresh servers, sorry

See? I can do it too. Now sit down, the adults are having a discussion

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how about “people want it and will pay blizzard money for it”. because that’s good enough for blizzard.

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As always; I didn’t get one. But I would have hit NO.

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People want faction and race change and will pay blizzard money for it too, but you don’t see those on the table

Maybe explain why fresh servers would be good for the community and actually address and counter the points I’ve made about why I think they wouldn’t be good. “Lol it’ll get blizzard money” isn’t an argument

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except starting a fresh server is a very normal course of action for the WoW devs, unlike catering to people who want to change their faction or race for some reason.

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I was quite surprised I got one. I cancelled my sub out of frustration two days ago and it expires in a few weeks. The last thing I expected was for them to care about my opinion although I definitely would resub for something like this.

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If people want fresh servers and there are enough people to support them… then so be it.

Personally I don’t see the point. It’s far faster to level now so… Fresh server will just have people farming and flooding the economy even faster. Then end up just being a fresh version of the current thing… but for a few weeks I guess it could be cool.

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they will gate the content in the phase system just like in the first run thru classic, that’s the fun part

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The entire point isn’t the economy. Its a large point but the main thing is experiencing the progression through the phases again.

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That’s an excellent point. Increased xp/drops will definitely inflate the economy quicker. I think a lot of people want to go into a time machine and relive the classic experience but being new to mmorpgs and new to wow that was a once in a lifetime experience and there’s no way to chase that same feeling again.

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Ya that’s what SOE Progression Servers were more or less. Some were time locked and others community vote to go to the next phase. There was a large enough base to experience this over and over for them to keep doing it.

I just like “classic” in the sense of like how DAoC did it even though there were things there that weren’t in “classic”. When they put those servers back in with the ToA I left for good. So I guess that’s why I didn’t look at “fresh servers” this way because I was never into the endless progression server to experience all the phases again thing…

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Fresh servers got my vote, IMO its a pure win idea.

Blizzard needs to do the following if they want to not fail.

  1. A few fresh servers
  2. Force balance / transfers from High pop servers to med pop servers moving players to where they need to be to keep the server balance.
  3. Close dead servers & force transfers
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How about the idea of a new megaserver with layers and just decrease the layers to keep a certain number of players on each layer.

Realistically, how much development time would it require, though? At this point LITERALLY all of the hard work has been done. If they want to add QoL changes or whatever, that’s gonna take a little bit of someone paying attention, but to just turn on a server and plan out the phase changes isn’t really development time. It’s like a short afternoon that doesn’t take away from anything else.

A lot of this. I know they blame the pandemic, but they’ve gone even quieter than usual. They’d need an in-game account-based voting system or something. And that would actually take some development time. Probably not a lot … (says the man who has NEVER seen the source code).

My favorite thing about the classic series of WoW is that it has opened the gates in some way. Fresh servers, Classic+, whatever Blizzard decides to do later, it’s been proven that people will play and most importantly, they will pay.

It’s a little early to be going crazy with the ideas, but the more I play BCC and think about other classic possibilities the less I care about abandoning my retail characters.

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I played vanilla from 2015 - 2021 so I’m kinda done with it…but a vanilla with OSRS-styled voted changes, I would take that for a spin.

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I agree 10000% on the quiet part. The way I read this as I took it, it implied that a new Classic+ progression server is something they are actively working on. So why not go public and ramp up support and include the playerbase? It’s beyond me, with all the negativity surrounding Blizzard because of Shadowlands 9.1 systems you would think they’d include us and get good PR

The way I see it, all hands should be on deck to fix whatever is wrong with live already, before anything is even considered for stuff that likely wouldn’t even pan out that well

Chief among these being the LFG tool (or rather, its complete absence)

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