#1. Alliance already has geographical advantage.
#2. Alliance already has instant ques allowing them to actually have fun and play the game.
#3. Blizzard you have coincidently LEFT OUT PREMADING AV ON PURPOSE.
#4. STREAMERS OPENLY USE DISCORD PREMADING WITH NO REPRUCSIONS. THEREFOR LEADING TO 95 PERCENT OF ALLIS TO USE IT. TOS. USING 3RD PARTY SOFTWARE TO GAIN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
#5.I have Alli friends and they hate queing bc if the premade drops and then the horde steam rolls 40 vs 12.
#6.simple solutions- bring out Arathi, make it so they cant bubble pull. increase drek and van health and damage. make it so you actually need to assult bunkers. streamers unfairly premading receive a ban sending a message to everyone. bring out 5 man -10 man ques pulling more people back into pvp. most people donāt even av because we cant que with our friends.but somehow you can premade av in retail ? wtf
as an ex mankrik native, I agree with this man.
I donāt see a problem.
Iām at a 50% win rate between literally the 2(two) AVs Iāve played.
Its not playing the game tho.
It would be no different than being in a big guild and making sure you all join the same AV number with guild chat.
Is it scummy, yes, against the ToS, highly doubt it.
They should bring out arathi tho, its the best BG.
#No changes
1 Cali is pretty awesome but i fail to see how that improves my BG experience.
2 Horde have larger numbers on pvp servers allowing them to have fun and play the game.
3 Yes, Yes they did. And they left in BG #s
4 Well thats a bit of a stretch, will using discord during the egg room of bwl be an unfair advantage against Nefarian?
5 Name 3 allies and have them respond to this thread, i find this unlikely.
6 Solution, you didnāt make much sense here so i wont even attempt to respond or paraphrase. Here is an alternative solution, donāt sub for a game everyone knew was broken.
I was thinking about this yesterdayā¦ every single horde player knows what the alliance is going to do. Premade or not itās no secret what they are going to doā¦ stop them. Itās that simple.
Hereās the truth: Horde wins every single god damn Alterac Valley in Classic.
You mean like pvp and not hide behind npc in dreks towerā¦ kill the paladins before they can kite ? 
The Alliance has the geographic advantage? Omegalol.
Whichever side had the faster queues was bound to make pseudo-premades. They literally built addons for this purpose back then. If you want premade PvP for AV you should just reroll.
yes. come to the alliance. i mean the dark sideā¦ oh wait. nvm.
I donāt care for it either so when I tried to come up with a real and working remedy to what ails me what I came up with was unsub.
Classic just not that big a loss imo.
Trust me, Horde have it a lot better. The Alliance āpvpā experience in classic is laughable. Imagine playing the game and the best way to rank up was to rush the opposing base over and over, avoiding all objectives or even fighting the other faction all together. I would have already quit by now.
Yes, must be horrible, all those horde forum threads 
if multi boxxing is not an advantage this isnt either.
Wow, pvp so bad it even makes people on PVE servers quit. Seriously though, your faction thanks you for your service and reduced Q times.
Can I has your stuff? I actually have a horde alt on Mankrik
No changes.
I wouldnāt mind having Arathi Basin, but it is a bit early for it.
Its just boring af. 80% of the time Im rolling alliance and 20% Im getting rolled by premades. No ggās between evenly matched teams. At least once a day I wait 25 min to get in against an ally stomp team about 25 sec before the game ends.
Just got really stale really fast.
Stop crying op.
i`m agree wit the no change , and classic is about in pve 80% of vanilla , and pvp about 60% the game have so many bug and not playing the same because is a rush downgrade of retail . i want no change from vanilla , but this is classic and already full of bug and change 
, sad but the nochange is throw out the window from day 1 ,