Blizzard potentially losing some of their casual playerbase in SL

yeah i wish a lot of things and people about this game were different cant have everything we want can we?

Its kind of his thing. I’m convinced he’s an elaborate troll.

According to you, if I pay $15, I can.

no i want everyone to have equal ground thats where you misqoute me. i dont care if your 20 ilvls above me, that wont make a huge difference


 If the M+ chest was all you were worried about, then why are you even here? That matter has nothing to do with WF/TF.

Items that come out of the chest being WF/TF historically was only because that was the easiest way for the game to resolve the item’s real item level without the context of an actual dungeon to be generated in.

Lack of WF/TF isn’t going to do anything to M+ weekly chest rewards, except make the WF/TF label stop showing up.

Kinda kills peoples will to reclear, especially the spiky butthole part of the raid.

You can feel the soul leave the bodies of the half of the raid that only gets a ring from either Shad’har or Drest’gath whenever our raid leader says “we’re reclearing for Azerite off Ilgy”.

Are you quite sure that your raid leader isn’t a survivor of the Burning Legion?

Because that sounds like something Kil’Jaeden would come up with.

We did it last week. We spent five and a half hours just getting up to Carapace again.

We only raid 6 hours a week.

Thankfully he listened to reason and we’re extending until we kill N’zoth from now on.

oh im still salty about that removel my whole point was that they wanted to make it worse which like i said earlier i misqouted him. as of now there isint anything for me to be concenred about. i can keep doing what im doing in SL it looks like

Thank god this raid has a skip, imagine having to clear all 11 bosses to start wiping on nzoth, literal nightmare, and some bosses being almost mandatory gear wise doesnt help either.

You say, “reason,” but somehow I hear:

Why should casuals be on the same ground as someone who runs like 10 mythics a week and raids 4 nights a week?

I shouldn’t be getting the same gear as someone who does that much when I only do about 1-2 mythics a week and 1-4 hours of heroics. How does that even make sense?

I don’t like to say this very often but this is sounding like wow communism right here lol.

well i mean it looks like i am getting what i want and you guys are getting what you want so win win. im not at mythic level gear for at least 5 weeks and you can get it in like 2

As someone who hasn’t stepped into Nyalotha at all this tier, what’s it like on heroic? Dreta is forcing me to raid next week and I honestly have no idea what to expect.

its a game and i want what i want out of a game. if you dont like it well tough luck but dont worry you get to keep yourselfs ahaead of me by 3 weeks at least

What day? That sounds like fun.

God if I know.
It’s alliance-side, hit Dreta or Nasuuna up somehow if you’re truly interested.

I don’t mind the length of the raid nearly so much as I mind the layout. 12 bosses is a looong raid, especially for a 2 day guild like ours.

But the raid seems deliberately geared to make you spend as much time as possible within it not doing the bosses, with the gigantic amount of trash and the weirdly placed graveyards.

And not even being able to do something like mounting up makes wipe recovery a huge pain in the neck if you don’t have a soulstone every pull, and often multiple, if the person you soulstone dies mid-way through an attempt before we call the wipe.

I quite enjoy the fights themselves. I don’t think it’s the best raid of the expansion (that goes to Dazar’alor), but in general Nya’lotha retains the quality Blizzard have managed over the past few expansions.

My major gripes with it largely come down to how much trash and distance there are between bosses, which makes for a fairly tedious clear.

My advice though? Ensure your group has a Warlock and make sure they’ve got a weakaura that plasters “SS THE HEALER” over their screen so they never forget to do so. Otherwise recovering from a wipe is awfuuuul. Especially for the spiky butthole bosses.

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Eww, blegh. Nevermind. I’d happily go if it was being done on Horde, but I don’t even have a raid-ready toon on the Alliance.

Dude. We’re on the same ilvl. But your response just shows me that you aren’t even looking or paying attention to who you’re responding to. You’re just crying because people have a higher ilvl then you? Well jesus hell, CLUTCH MY PEARLS, get over it.

This game gives you the rewards based on time played and thats tough luck if YOU don’t like that.

Having a 466 ilvl is great I don’t even know why you’re complaining.

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