I am just really tired of all these items / buffs that give me benefits and also hurt me. Please stop doing this. I don’t even ever pick these abilities and talents in roguelikes. Please stop putting them in this MMO. it’s really not fun. I don’t wanna take a flask that buffs my damage but also turns me gross and green and hurts me every so often, it’s really lame.
Thank you
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I kinda like the kiss/curse items personally.
if you don’t, just take the regular items.
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Same. I shied away from all of those cursed items in BFA. I’m not smart enough to use them and they overwhelm me.
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Examples?
The only ones that I can think of actually doing anything (that you can even notice) recently are in Remix. And you don’t have to slot them into your gear in the first place.
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IIRC there will be ‘gems’ with various drawback effects in the War Within.
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I love the one helmet gem thing in Remix that sets me on fire and increases my strength while doing damage to me.
Don’t be mad at interesting items, please.
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It depends entirely on what the kiss/curse it. I don’t mind something like belororos because I choose when to get the drawback (slow/self damage).
But I loathe the Corrupted Rage flask not because of it’s in-combat effect, but because it can proc OUTSIDE of combat and interrupt stuff like summons.
Likewise I didn’t mind the Corruption effects, because you could play around them.
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two examples would be Cataclysmic Signet Brand, and the Iced Phial of Corrupting Rage.
I understand I could use “lesser” options, but that’s not a decision that feels good when I’m gearing my character. I want to take the absolute best option for that slot of gear, and lately these options seem to include some form of me taking damage as well as receiving a buff, or losing out on a stat after a buff in that stat. Just buff me less.
It simply just doesn’t feel good for my gear that is the best option to also hurt me in some way. It’s never been this way so often before in WoW and I just enjoy gear helping me get better. If I wanted to make those kinds of decisions I would play Remix or a Roguelite or something.
Yeah in Remix it is totally fine, but keep that out of gearing in the main game. It’s not interesting to me. Nor am I angry, just expressing my displeasure. 
On my priest I have multiple items equipped that do damage to me when they proc. I’m fine with having Phial of Corrupting Rage ect that has a damage component to it. Not liking the trend of adding all these kiss/curse mechanics to gear.
Pain for Power! Live it!
Pallys shouldn’t be able to use these, however. Warlocks should get twice the power for twice the pain cuz we’re just into that kind of thing.
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Was in LFR with 5 healers running that Righteous Frenzy gem. Healers that weren’t healers. So no healing. And 5 stacks, so 10% damage ticking down pretty consistently.
For those with low leech… things did not end well. lol
there is a class that is/used to be about this condition: warlock. leave it that way.
the only class where that might make any sense at all for a trinket to do self damage is warrior to build rage. not sure if the current trinkets really even do that.
There was one trinket a season or two ago that sometimes damaged you when attacking. I never noticed until I did the Valentine’s Day quest that gives you a ridiculous attack speed and I dunked on myself. 
Sun Caller trinket has killed me more times than I care to admit no it’s none of your business how many times stop asking. Sheesh.
you don’t like doing 2 million self-inflicted damage over the course of a dungeon run?
(to be serious I like the idea but so, so many items whether they be consumable trinket or even weapon have kiss-curse baked in to the point where its uninteresting)