Blizzard: Please Drastically Reduce "Catnip" Item Cost

Blizzard - please drastically reduce the cost of “Catnip” that feral druids can now buy from the vendor

Right now, in order for feral druids to be anywhere near competitive as a DPS (and I mean, middle of the pack, nowhere close to top DPS) they NEED to be using Catnip

No other Class in the game is having to pay 45 silver every 3 minutes in order to be a semi-competitive DPS ---- IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER CONSUMES THAT EVERY CLASS USES

Don’t get me wrong… Catnips is a great quality of life change, where you don’t need to be farming crowd pummelers…
But now it’s just traded farming crowd pummelers for farming gold.

In order to be competitive, in any environment, PvP, PvE, feral MUST be using Catnip
It shouldn’t cost 45 silver per use…

To play feral you shouldn’t be having to pay 9 gold an hour…
No other class are they ‘required’ to pay 9 gold an hour to be semi-competitive

Please reduce the price of Catnip from the vendor drastically, ideally closer to 10 silver (or less) per

I agree wholeheartedly that it’s a great item, it shouldn’t be free
But 45 silver each, where it lasts for 3 minutes, is mandatory for all ferals to use in all PvE, all PvP in order to be viable as a class??
That’s too much!!

“Oh well just don’t use them if they’re expensive!!”
Ferals have to use them to remain competitive.

Imagine that you as a warrior had to do all of your normal raid consumes, rage pots, everything, but now they introduced a new item from a vendor that lasted for 3 minutes cost you 45 silver, added another 9 gold per hour to all of your gameplay costs, where warrior was straight up not viable, unless you were willing to pay 9g per hour at all times
You would object too!!
You would say “Why is it so expensive? Why isn’t this just a rune or ability?”

No class should be required to pay 9 gold an hour to be viable
Other classes are fine not using consumes and will not drastically underperform
If feral does not use catnip, feral DRASTICALLY underperforms
Feral is forced to use Catnip… it should not be 45 silver each

Please Blizzard, reduce the price closer to 10 silver each

It is extremely strong and should be expensive. Be glad you can farm whatever you want instead of farming just Gnomeregan. And it’s stackable. And it isn’t RNG.

Count your blessings and get grinding.

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The reason it is strong, is because feral is so weak… Lol
No other class do they need to be using 20 consumes an hour in order to be viable

Over the course of a day, you could easily be spending 50 gold on just Catnip

This is too high.
If Catnip worked where it would make feral top DPS, sure - 45 silver per would be fine
But this is not the case. It’s paying 45 silver per, to be barely middle of the pack DPS - it’s to be viable, not to outperform

There should not be a 9 gold requirement per hour to be viable

And to clarify, I do not play feral, but I know a lot of ferals, and on their behalf I am posting - I think it is unfair, and a very easy fix

45 silver each → 10 silver each

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In the time you’ve spent complaining you could have farmed a stack.

Should be a rune honestly. Thats the whole point of runes.

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What’s funny is that if it were a rune it would have a much higher opportunity cost than 40s.

You are not understanding.

In order for ferals to be viable in anything (not outperform, just be viable)
Dungeons, PvP, raids, they need to be using Catnip

In other words, at all times, doing any content, a feral must be paying 9 gold an hour
Over the course of a day, this can easily be 50 gold

No other class needs to be paying 50 gold a day in order to be viable
If it were a rune, even if the rune took 12 hours to complete, all feral druids would be doing it - and over the course of Phase 3 and Phase 4, would come out FAR FAR ahead (had they used those same 12 hours to farm gold)

Again

Imagine that you as a warrior had to do all of your normal raid consumes, rage pots, everything, but now they introduced a new item from a vendor that lasted for 3 minutes cost you 45 silver, added another 9 gold per hour to all of your gameplay costs, where warrior was straight up not viable, unless you were willing to pay 9g per hour at all times
You would object too!!
You would say “Why is it so expensive? Why isn’t this just a rune or ability?”

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I understand perfectly.

People don’t run bis consumables all day long. You’ll use them in raid and pvp if you wanna sweat.

You are actually viable whether you use it or not. Pay for it if the buff is worth it to you.

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“Best in Slot consumables”
That is the key difference, and what you’re not understanding

A warrior is able to not pop consumes and be viable as a class.
A mage is able to not pop consumes and be viable as a class.
A warlock is able to not pop consumes and be viable as a class.
A shaman is able to not pop consumes and be viable as a class.
A paladin is able to not pop consumes and be viable as a class.
A priest is able to not pop consumes and be viable as a class.
A rogue is able to not pop consumes and be viable as a class.

Ferals cannot, in their current state. In order to be viable, in anything, PvP, dungeons, raid, they MUST be using catnip (which lasts for 3 minutes…)
In other words… they need to pop 20 catnip an hour, in order to be viable as a class

“Umm any class is viable!! You can play any class if you want to!!”
When I say the word “viable” I mean

Able to keep up in DPS with other classes, not be 50% the damage of other classes

Without Catnip, ferals are literally doing 50% of the damage of other classes
In other words… it is not viable to play feral without Catnip

You cannot be raiding, doing 50% less damage than everybody else
You cannot be doing dungeons doing 50% less damage than everybody else
You cannot be doing PvP doing 50% less damage than everybody else

In other words… it is then essential to be using it - mandatory - as a feral, you don’t have a choice, if you want to be able to perform like any other class

“Well who cares if they are underperforming!!”
I care. The ferals care. They shouldn’t have to choose between doing 50% less damage than everyone else or having to spend 9 gold at all times, when it is a very easy fix, to decrease the cost from 45 silver each to 10 silver each
They would still be paying 2g an hour, easily 10 gold a day

It should not be free - but it should not be 9 gold an hour, in order to be viable

You’re incorrect. They are viable with or without. They are competitive with.

If the buff isn’t worth it, save your money, if it is, cough it up.

Lmao. No. You obviously do not play feral, ran dungeons with feral, raided with feral this tier, or done PvP with ferals this tier.

If I didn’t play a class, I wouldn’t be in here insisting that I know everything about it, arguing for the sake of arguing. You on the other hand… are

I did all of the above today.

Feral unbuffed is very much in line with warriors.

You are delusional and flat out wrong. Feral unbuffed is literally 50% less than warriors.
Just look at the statistics on warcraftlogs alone — all of those are with the ferals using Catnip, and the only classes they are above is frost mage, arcane mage, boomkin
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Aguy, I would encourage you to talk to the feral druids you know, ask them if they think the 45 silver is too much per Catnip - that they think it’s unfair to be expected to pay 9 gold per hour to be viable.

Ask them if they think that their class is viable without Catnip.
Seriously - go ask them

They will all tell you that it should really just be a rune in the first place OR be severely reduced in cost.

It is baffling to me that you are dying on this hill of “No, it should be expensive!!”
When you don’t even play the class

if they made an item that required all warriors to be using it to be viable that lasted for 3 minutes and cost 45 silver, I would object to that too
No class should have to use an item to be viable

Stop crying, Rogues have been paying 60 silver since Phase 1 for Thistle Tea…

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They’re in line with Warriors, man. They’re perfectly viable. Now go buy your turbo powerful consumes and be glad you’re not farming gnomeregan.

A rogue doesn’t use more than 100 thistle teas in a day.
In the current state of the game, feral druids do

Furthermore, rogues use thistle teas in raids OR in PvP when trying hard to kill their target

Ferals need to be using them at all times, 100% uptime - it’s not a “let me pop this and kill this target” thing – it’s “Let me refresh this buff on me, so that I have 100% uptime”
Imagine if Rogues had to pop Thistle tea at all times, on cooldown, just to be viable in a dungeon - that would be insane (too)

This isn’t a thing. Rogues do not pop 100 thistle tea a day. Ferals pop 100 Catnip day. (and that’s if they played 5 hours that day…)

We do pop it all the time…

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Just delete and give it to paladins i will pay that amount without any problems

I have no clue why they didnt introduce this as a spell book like they did with warlock closet or hunter aspect of the viper.

Dude right now to craft bis bullets/arrows is costing like 1s per arrow, can easily go through 20g+ worth of arrows in a single run. You’ve got it easy.