I can’t believe this whole thing came out of Blizzard’s weird issue with waterstriders.
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Plain and simple… WE ARE NOT MOUNTS. We can use mounts and their attached items, but once again, WE ARE NOT MOUNTS. No one is denying you the right to use mounts. You at least have an option to do that. You can choose to mount or shift. I don’t find shifting pointless at all. I take advantage of it all the time, but I stop at the water’s edge and mount on my strider.
Isn’t the dismounting in flight only for PVP? PVP has different rules.
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Yes, but if we are dismounted from FLIGHT form… which never used to do this … druids are at a disadvantage if we use flight form. It locks us out of using it because everyone in pvp will be using the parachute on their mount.
But as we are NOT MOUNTS as you keep harping on about… we shouldn’t be DISMOUNTED as we are not a mount. It is a shapeshift form,
So again I’ll point out the massive double standard here.
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Goblin Glider Kit.
Let’s see the score here…
Druids’s travel form
Instant cast
Don’t get dismounted when dazed
Can interact with objects
Immune to polymorph
Breaks snares
Can carry people
Useable in combat
Everyone else:
Cast time (automatically interrupted if you enter combat)
Not useable in combat
Doesn’t break snares
Can be polymorphed
Can’t interact with objects without a consumable
Dismounts when dazed without consumable
Can’t carry others
Druids get a free Skygolem+Mechanohog+chauffeured chopper hybrid that is instant cast, useable in combat, breaks snares, and makes them immune to polymorph.
Those poor, poor druids, having to use a regular mount like the rest of us plebs if they want water walking or a parachute.
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Have you considered the non-stun equipment on a flying mount for your pvp? If they can’t be stunned, they can’t be dismounted???
FLIGHT FORM can’t use this…
Seriously… either flight form is a mount that can have the druid dismounted from it, and therefore needs to benefit from the mount equipment… or it’s not a mount and shouldn’t be affected.
One or the other. Not both… otherwise druid flight form is pointless.
So why is mount equipment needed then if everyone can use this, along with water walking potions, and barding ?
Are you so danged lazy that you can’t spend 1 1/2 seconds to summon a flying mount? Good grief. No flight form can’t use it. Get over it… seriously.
No because i’m honestly sick of the double standards and it’s always druids getting the shaft… see our class ‘nonmount’.
The barding will not work in the new zones. They are limited to Zandalar and Kul Tiras only.
Well, I’m over it and I’m done with this thread. Congrats on your inability to understand.
./sigh
When we are dazed we slow down a lot… and because we are therefore in combat our travel form is slowed down after daze to less than the speed of the cat form. To combat this we have to get out of combat then shift form out of travel then back into travel, taking 2 seconds. Longer than the cast of your mounts
Everyone can interact with objects. Just because you need to use a consumable doesn’t detract from that. It’s not unique. Also we get shifted out at the randomest of times.
Immunity to polymorph is a druid trait, not specifically travel form.
Breaking snares takes 2 seconds, you have to shift OUT of travel form to another form incurring the global, then back into travel form. By that point you’re usually snared again.
As for carrying others… so can you. Plenty of mounts can do that… as for stag form, only if you enable it. I have cheetah form… so get lost.
Usable in combat? Cat form is faster than travel.
Oh you got me. Checkmate. Literally no purpose to mount equipment for anyone because consumables exist.
Except…wait…us plebeian non-druids don’t get the option to have an instant cast, combat useable, snare breaking, polymorph immuning, form change that lets us interact with objects without being dismounted.
We have to specifically summon a chauffeur’d chopper if we want to not get dismounted when dazed.
We have to specifically summon a Skygolem if we want to herb.
Mount equipment let’s us meager non-Druid troglodytes pick one of three “perks” to put on our mounts. Consumables are still required; Us unenlightened fools can only get one little trait for our mounts as opposed to a metric ton of traits.
And, Druids still get access to these traits, they just have to…use a mount.
You want a parachute? Then what abilities are you willing to give up so that your travels forms are brought back to galaxy as everyone else’s mounts.
Also, if we are dazed, we get dismounted. Can’t remount until we clear combat.
Edit: Break’s over, back to work. Sorry you can’t literally have everything baked into a class ability. I guess druids don’t get anything good because travel form and all the perks it grants is definitely less useful than everyone else’s perkless mount.
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So we are mounts then? If you say we are not mounts… then why can we be dismounted from flight form?
Either flight form is a mount … or it’s not.
Which is it?
If it is a mount, then it should benefit from the parachute like any other mount can.
If it is not a mount… then we shouldn’t be dismounted… as it is not a mount to be dismounted from.
See the logic there?
So which is it?
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Druid travel forms really don’t need mount equipment. If you’re in travel form you already swim insanely fast and if anything that’s stronger than being forced to walk on top of the water already. I can’t tell you the amount of times I’ve used my swimming form and dove under the water to evade players chasing me.
Land travel, if you get dazed you aren’t knocked out of your form like normal players get dismounted.
Flight form you can shift in and out of instantly, I mean the fact that you’re avoiding having to “cast” your mount every time and that It’s instant is already insanely OP. Sure one time isn’t that bad, but think about how many times people mount and dismount. Think of how much time non-druid players have spent JUST summoning their mounts over a 15+ year period.
As far as the running wild, I hope they are able to use mount equipment because as you stated it is their racial mount.
Flight form isn’t a mount.
You can get dismounted from flight form because PvP is a thing. It’s called game balance, might want to look that up.
Want a parachute? Mount up like literally everyone else. Instant cast times and the ability to interact with things is clearly not enough.
Farewell, enlightened druid, the logic your throwing at us is mind blowing. Burying your head isn’t exactly logic.
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If i lose my water strider you should lose that, and DKs should lose path of frost, and shamans should lose water walking.
Either everyone gets everything or noone gets anything.
Thanks for the kind response and adding reasoning to your post! I have not seen much reasoning other than simple “no” in here.
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Actually it’s your logic that’s flawed here. Not mine. I’ve pointed out two scenarios… both of which are mutually exclusive.
Basically you’re just saying that druids are the only class that gets shafted on a regular basis and you don’t care because you have class envy. Got it.
I can’t wait the next time warlocks or paladins or whatever class you’re attached to gets hit with something like this. I tend to defend said class when it’s blatantly unfair, but now I know not to bother as you guys won’t do the same for us. Was the same back when we got shafted on the class mount too.
Aquatic form is very, very useful but I wouldn’t call it insanely fast. It’s just running speed. A water walking mount would be much preferable for extended water travel.
You too, can interact with items while mounted with current profession items.
People REALLY need to quit using that one as an excuse.
The question you should be answering is: ”How will us having mount equipment effect you exactly?”
I have yet to see how it would make things unfair for you, as every class has their perks.