Hi Blizzard,
Can you just take demonic gateway out of the game? If you are going to nerf it into the ground where its completely useless, might as well just delete it.
Monks, Hunters, Demon Hunters, and Mages can literally fly across the entire battleground with the flag, yet Warlocks can’t use it while holding the flag?
We can’t use it to setup easy transport across most Y-axis terrain, what’s the point? To teleport an extra 20 yards while walking?
Warriors get 2 charges of Heroic Leap, Mages get 2 charges of Blink, Demon Hunters get 2 charges of their dash ability, Paladins get 2 charges of Divine Steed… and I’m sure I’m forgetting some other classes… But Warlocks get 1 charge of Demonic Gateway and its cooldown is 90 seconds…
At this point its a completely useless spell so just delete it or make it fun and utilitarian.
Thank you,
(A 12+ year Warlock player)
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Yea i feel this. It should work the same and be able to use it twice before going on cd and 90 seconds is way to long.
But look at our wall its a super long cd as well meanwhile every other class big defensives are on much shorter cds. Blizz has made it clear they dont care
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Evokers too
Zoom zoom hover while also being immune to slows
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Warlock is in a weird place right now. It is stuck in a very un-modern playstyle during a time when wow is pushing to modernize classes. Still a pretty strong class but with the insanely high mobility creep and micro-cc surge in pvp… It feels bad. Plus I swear we have never been squishier.
You know, personally I would be way into them embracing the portal and summoning aspect more to help them compete. If they made Gateway behave like the one they gave Arcanist in ESO that would be so good. Limited time up but you can pass through it multiple times. Just make a two point portal.
Or rip off the Void Elf racial. It’s a really good one for Warlock.
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We may just need to rock full pvp gear with maybe two set going forward and stack verse.
I forget his name but there is always a dwarf lock at the top of the ladder rocking full pvp gear. Maybe he is on to something lol
Coming in to +1 this whole thread with the annoying fact DG can be barely put down anywhere useful in the overworld. The number of times I get “cannot use that here” when i’ve just seen a warrior leap up an incline is astounding.
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This is probably the weakest we’ve been in terms of defensives.
We’ve lost almost all of our passive defensives. We don’t have demon armor, soul link is nerfed, soul leech isn’t as good, passive healing is gutted, and the defensives we do have are proactive, not reactive.
Our defenses also get weaker as we get damaged. Dark pact is % based and Healthstone still has charges.
Warlock needs a defensive overhaul. It’s not in a great spot. It feels like it’s stuck in the past and still trying to make due with 5 year old defensives.
I do also wish Demonic Gateway wasn’t considered as part of our mobility. With its super long CD I don’t think having one more mobility spell would hurt anything.
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I still believe that Warlocks should be able to use their Gateways every 10 seconds, instead of having to wait 90 seconds, like everybody else.
It’d also be nice if we didn’t trigger stuff that lay between the two Gateways too!
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The reasoning for this is odd.
Did someone get outplayed so their solution is to take away an ability basically?
Class has zero mobility and this is a godo decision? Ok then.
I do fine in most pvp enviroments as a warlock, but I do agree that a 90 second cooldown on using the DG is too long, I also would like for it to have a farther distance baseline.
Agreed to the 1.5 min cd.
I was being sarcastic. I wasn’t actually hoping they take it out of the game. I just want them to make it better so Warlocks can be more mobile and defensive.
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Well, the Y axis being affected seems silly to even toy with.
Why mess with something that has been around that long until now?
To my point it appears someone’s feelings got hurt. Happens a lot in this game.
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Yes… its been broken for so long, why bother improving it? Great logic…
Just because it can’t be used in silly duels at goldshare inn don’t mean its useless.
It’s incredibly userfull in both PVE endgame content and still good at actual relevant pvp content (Arena/Battlegrounds).
.youtube.com/shorts/mA7RRBK6XDA
.youtube.com/shorts/TNAdS8WUb4A
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Arsyn’s entire channel is full of great M+ Gatewayskips.
But somehow, because you can’t put gateway on top of trees/houses in a duel people are complaining like its a dead spell lol and should be deleted.
Broken? Subjective at best.
My point stands. No one had an issue with it and all knew this was part of the warlock’s toolkit and what it entailed. No real reason to change it other than someone took it personally.
Make 'em better is all… like those step-on circles in pokemon that full on spin you to the next one, character, camera and all…
Well that aside, i think it’s a great spell. A bit long on the cooldown side ?! Sure. But that could be built on.
I don’t Raid or do M+ so those mean nothing to me. I also don’t do Arenas but yea I get it, you can go from Pillar to Pillar without being exposed… every 90 seconds.
In Battlegrounds its completely useless other than being able to skip an extra 30 yards…every 90 seconds. Since it can’t be used in most Y-axis scenarios, it seems useless. Especially when many other classes have tons of more mobility, defense, self healing… its like they don’t care about Warlocks.
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I would rather have something similar to a mages blink…maybe a directional portal that opens and spits you out in the direction you’re moving. we’re already dark clones of mages anyway.
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