Look at most Class Bis loot and you will notice that 80%+ come from raids, and the rest can be crafted gears. Bis Weps are all in raid, I am currently Queing my Key +2 Theater of Pain and LITTERALLY NO ONE is Queing. everyone is in raids.
PS My Io rating from last season is around 2700+ cleared all 11 early season then stoped cause I didnt feel like pushing 12s alone.
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There is an issue where myself and others didn’t have 4 out of the 8 dungeons selected in the filters. It just seemingly unchecked itself or was never checked to begin with. So players aren’t seeing those dungeons, including Theater of Pain.
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It’s just trinkets and weapons from the raid. There is still a lot of armor to get from M+.
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Are they not adding dinars/bullions too? So you can use them on raid weapons and trinkets? IIRC I read those items will upgrade to mythic item level, like they did in S4 Dragonflight.
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I didn’t hear about this, if true I would be in heaven, My current work is rotational and most guilds don’t take raiders that cant fully commit to 2 days a week to raid.
I imagine they’ll probably be added in 6-8 weeks from now, whenever we get 11.1.5. Hopefully they are not hard to acquire so we can have like 3-4 months of the season to use them.
If M+ has too much good loot, people wont raid as much. Thats all there is to it.
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The opposite is also true!
NAH M+ HAS KSM,KSH, portals, and a new one for 3k…KSL? A lot going for it as well as infinite loot grind+crest grind.
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They’re coming in 11.1.5 we just don’t know what that will look like yet.
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Theather is just a bad dungeon
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Good, M+ needs to die! There is only a small % of sweatlords that like that content.
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I’ve listed every variation of +2 key today over 8+ hours and have had exactly 4 people try to join my groups…every key i’ve done has been joining another after waiting 25+ minutes for mine to fill.
I didn’t see this, thank you.
I hope they’re not too hard to acquire. I don’t really raid unless there is aotc mounts or something. Bullions forced me into farming raid bosses, which I guess isn’t hard or the end of the world but I’d rather do m+.
Regardless of how many enjoy the content the fact the only keys you can realistically get into right now are 6 and higher is insane. There’s only one type of player that can play the game, highly skilled, unemployed sweats that can play 20 hours a day. Unskilled sweats will fall behind and be discovered before the reset.
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I just swapped to my disc priest and my mage friend is with me. we are currently queing for his +2 workshop and still no one queiing
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ToP hits like a freight train even on key 2s…
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If they’re killing M+ to reward raiders, why is it that 2 weeks from now, 80% of the gear that progression raiders are wearing will be from M+?
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Blizzard would love for that to be true but it hasn’t been true since before M+ was even added to the game, which is why they added it in the first place.
Now people hate to pug M+ as well because it’s just annoying even with the premade group finder.
Unless they add queueable M+ you’ll probably see people do delves over both raids and M+ until they get bored of delves and quit. The S2 changes to M+ might entice some people to try it again at least. Maybe changing the enemy forces mechanic to put less pressure on the tank to know efficient routes would get more people to try tanking in M+. 
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Make your own group?
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