Blizzard - Don't forget this tiny Loot Trading detail!

[Lagspike-duskwood (Lagspike)]

The compromise we have been given is more than fair. I wouldn’t poke the beast any further.

[Hellzfire-korgath (Hellzfire)]

With new guilds and especially new realms often times the Guild Master will have loot master on because they are worried about ninjas in their guild that will take a great piece and leave.

If there is ever a time to find out if someone should be in your guild or not, it’s in a 5man to see if they are a ninja. We can’t cater to people in order to keep them from ninja looting. I know this sounds silly, but ninja looting is part of the game, if they do it then you deal with it. If you have on masterlooter in a 5 man and you mess something up then you should deal with it.

[Kneenibbler-kirin-tor]

I have to disagree. I think loot trading should be left how they’re stated it. If you make the mistake of looting an item that you shouldn’t have, then you shouldn’t be bailed out.

[Moxu-moon-guard]

Kneen, I have to disagree with you mate.

I think loot trading should be left how they’re stated it.

Stated what? They have not stated that:

If you make the mistake of looting an item that you shouldn’t have, then you shouldn’t be bailed out.

I am looking for them to do what you are saying they have done. I would love ^^ that quote above to be true… but it is not yet.

[Hellzfire-korgath (Hellzfire)]

@Moxu-moon-guard

I am looking for them to do what you are saying they have done. I would love ^^ that quote above to be true… but it is not yet.

Eh I would say it is in a way.

@Kaivax

Taking that into consideration, we’ve decided that the two-hour loot trading system in WoW Classic will only apply to soulbound gear that drops in raids. Soulbound loot that drops in five-person content will not be tradeable at any time. What we hope to do is to strike a balance between saving players time and minimizing the potential for abuse of the system. We think this approach better addresses the concerns we’ve heard from players on the subject.

[Hellicìous-aerie-peak]

Read the Sticky Blue post bub, States clearly they are not allowing trading in 5 man only Raids. Can’t please everyone but this is a fair decision by Blizzard.

[Moxu-moon-guard]

I agree this is a fair decision by Blizzard… I am happy with the post. Simply trying to understand why 2-hour trades would be disabled with Loot Master ON.

[Kneenibbler-kirin-tor]

@Moxu-moon-guard

Stated what? They have not stated that:

You mean this?

@Kaivax

At BlizzCon 2018, we talked about how we plan to keep loot trading in World of Warcraft Classic. We added loot trading in Wrath of the Lich King to solve a common problem: a player could accidentally loot an item meant for another player or give it to the wrong person using Master Loot. They would then have to contact Blizzard to get the item moved to the intended recipient, which might take days. We wanted to keep loot trading in WoW Classic because the end result is the same – the correct person gets the item – and it’ll save everyone time.

But we heard your concerns about the potential for abuse of the loot trading system in parties of five. It’s possible that abusive play could take the form of a group of four players colluding to deny loot to a stranger who joined their party as a pick-up. Raid groups, being much larger, come with more understanding on the part of solo players that loot distribution can depend on the whims of the many players and raid leaders who know each other.

Taking that into consideration, we’ve decided that the two-hour loot trading system in WoW Classic will only apply to soulbound gear that drops in raids. Soulbound loot that drops in five-person content will not be tradeable at any time. What we hope to do is to strike a balance between saving players time and minimizing the potential for abuse of the system. We think this approach better addresses the concerns we’ve heard from players on the subject.

[Ristra-suramar (Ristra)]

I drop from 5 mans with master looter. Guild or not.

Just sayin

[Hellicìous-aerie-peak]

That would unfortunately leave open a loop hole that some players would find a way to abuse in some way or another.

[Hellzfire-korgath (Hellzfire)]

I agree this is a fair decision by Blizzard… I am happy with the post. Simply trying to understand why 2-hour trades would be disabled with Loot Master ON.

Because you can run into the same exact issues as just leaving the 2 hour loot trade on without it.
“Hey guys we are running ML for this run so no one ninjas”

-Player 1 rolls on item for player 2-

You just created the same exact problem they literally just fixed. Don’t run ML in 5mans… ever… there is literally no reason to use it.

[Cheater-azjolnerub (Cheater)]

The loot trading issue is over.

[Chawana-altar-of-storms (Chawana)]

Why do you even have master looter on in a 5 man in the first place?

Pretty much a bad idea all around, and the best argument to the OP.

I don’t trust a 5man with masterloot; I’d rather just find out who is trustworthy and invite them. Random PUGs will be justified in not wanting to join your master-loot group.

That said, I understand why the OP wants this. It’s an option that’s a ‘why not’ sort of thing, but is ultimately not something I see as necessary due to the reasons stated above.

[Zuhd-andorhal]

The compromise we have been given is more than fair. I wouldn’t poke the beast any further.

What on earth motivates you to think like this? How about we just push for the best possible gameplay as authentic as possible to vanilla? What cost is there to “poking the beast?” You act like making a forum post is expensive.

[Sassafrass-cenarius]

Continuing to cry after you’ve been given a solid compromise is undignified and sad. ‘I want, I want , I want…’

It is similar to a spoiled child. An ungrateful, spoiled child.

Acknowledging the fairness and moving into acceptance is more adult/emotionally mature.

Give it a shot!

[Fifi-hakkar (Fifi)]

I might be misreading, but it sounds like you changed your mind after you saw a better piece of loot drop from next boss and now you want to trade it. I don’t think that should be allowed. And if you are submitting tickets for this then I think that sounds like the whole reason bliz added the loot trading in to avoid those. That doesn’t sound to me like intended to be able to abuse trading of items that you initially wanted and then changed your mind later on.

[Thundertotem-blackwater-raiders (Thundertotem)]

If I join a group and Master Loot is on, I’m bailing that group

[Zuhd-andorhal]

Continuing to cry after you’ve been given a solid compromise is undignified and sad. ‘I want, I want , I want…’

It is similar to a spoiled child. An ungrateful, spoiled child.

Acknowledging the fairness and moving into acceptance is more adult/emotionally mature.

Give it a shot!

Oh my god shut up, it’s not crying and it doesn’t cost anything. I want vanilla, I don’t like loot trading, loot trading wasn’t in vanilla, I’ve played with loot trading for years and I don’t support it. There is no reason for me to just start supporting loot trading.

I’m still gonna play classic, never threatened to quit over loot trading, never insulted blizzard over their reasoning, all I did was make a forum post espousing my opinion.

[Sassafrass-cenarius]

Bro, dry those eyes! I’m just making posts giving my opinion as well. We’re the same. Except I’m not crying.

Classic is going to be awesome, with or without loot trading.

Thankfully , your wants don’t determine what is or isn’t going to happen in Classic.

[Tarregor-dalaran (Tarregor)]

yeah that works; you can just not use master loot for 5 mans if you dont like it