Blizzard daily reminder that the VAST majority of players want LFD in WoTLK

[Cítywók-illidan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2nbqau/wow_subscriber_numbers_by_expac_in_millions/ this is the numbers in each quarter by shareholder release. As you can see it dives in Q2

[Timay-pagle]

CRAZY the chart you link shows the opposite of what you claim. RDF came with ICC 10 months prior to the end, not where that dip happened. And it steadies out only to increase by the end of wotlk just to start tanking in cata.

[Rawkjuvenate-whitemane]

So you’re talking about the small blip Q2 2009? That’s pre-ICC and pre-LFD, which were released Q4 of 2009. That’s not a very detailed chart either. Very easy to misinterpret the data.

[Maxium-grobbulus]

Thinking the vast majority of the player base actually visits these forums is a bit naieve.

[Xo-jom-gabbar]

Hey OP. What is the exact percentage of players that want LFD?

[Truthspeaker-earthfury]

If you don’t like features that were originally in wrath retail is waiting for you.

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

@Cítywók-illidan

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2nbqau/wow_subscriber_numbers_by_expac_in_millions/ this is the numbers in each quarter by shareholder release.

What’s more interesting here is the fact that the game loses so many players after LFD is released. The game grew and grew, then LFD releases, it remains stagnant, before it just heads in a downward spiral for the next few expansions.

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

@Truthspeaker-earthfury

If you don’t like features that were originally in wrath

No? Classic Wrath is waiting for me, because Blizzard removed the feature I disliked.

@Truthspeaker-earthfury

retail is waiting for you

Ironically, as Ion mentioned in the preview, those looking for the LFD experience will be able to find it in Dragonflight. Ion confirmed the LFD will be in the Dragonflight expansion.

That comment really backfired on you.

[Truthspeaker-earthfury]

Nope still seems better suited for you to go to retail since you don’t want wrath as it was.

[Timay-pagle]

Plenty of other things went into the downfall of subscribers aswell, can’t place it solely on lfd.
Early on in Cata a big complaint was heroics were too hard in comparison to the face roll ones we had in WOTLK, which drove some players away I’m sure. Some didn’t like LFR because it made raids more accessible and that made some of the more hardcore players feel like they needed to do LFR + normal/heroic raids. Theres many many other reasons not listed that contributed and its unfair to say its only because RDF.

[Rawkjuvenate-whitemane]

Such a disingenuous take. The chart is in millions, and you’re trying to blame LFD for the entire decline of WoW subs. In a smaller, more reasonable scale, you could see subs grew after 3.3.0 until Cata pre-patch.
If you don’t like LFD, there’s always Classic SoM. Also Ion doesn’t even play Classic, I bet he doesn’t even play retail.

[Feywaif-atiesh]

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

What’s more interesting here is the fact that the game loses so many players after LFD is released.

What’s so interesting to me is that you would tell that lie even when there’s a link with the numbers and anyone can go to the link and see you’re wrong. Are you counting on people not checking the link and just believing you?

[Truthspeaker-earthfury]

Bloomsday being wrong is as reliable as the sun rising each day.

[Feywaif-atiesh]

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

as Ion mentioned in the preview, those looking for the LFD experience will be able to find it in Dragonflight

He could have mentioned we can also find the LFD experience in FFXIV. I’m downloading it now but it’s a huge file and will take hours. I won’t get to try it out until tomorrow. There’s a free trial to level 60 too.

[Trunkk-whitemane]

What about it turned YOU specifically off? Don’t talk about “us.” What turned you off about other people queuing for dungeons in LFD?

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

@Truthspeaker-earthfury

Nope still seems better suited for you to go to retail since you don’t want wrath as it was

Why would I go to retail when they are making Wrath as I want it to be? No LFD is exactly what I asked for.

@Timay-pagle

Plenty of other things went into the downfall of subscribers aswell, can’t place it solely on lfd

Sure, but LFD didn’t help the game. The game stopped growing after it was released.

@Rawkjuvenate-whitemane

you’re trying to blame LFD for the entire decline of WoW subs

Can you quote where I made such a claim? I’ll wait.

@Feywaif-atiesh

What’s so interesting to me is that you would tell that lie even when there’s a link with the numbers and anyone can go to the link and see you’re wrong

Let’s see… LFD is released at the end of Wrath. The game sees little growth and takes big sub number hits from Cata - WoD, after LFD is released.

Do you know how to read the graph?

@Feywaif-atiesh

He could have mentioned we can also find the LFD experience in FFXIV

Yeah, that game also has LFD if you’re looking for it. Enjoy!

[Andessaiya-faerlina]

Agreed there is no reasonable argument anyone can make against LFD. It was in wrath it should stay in wrath just as the features people wanted to stay in classic vanilla stayed. If they don’t like it they have vanilla and tbc they can play instead or just simply no use it. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean the rest of us shouldn’t enjoy it if we do.

[Rawkjuvenate-whitemane]

You’re doing it now. You’re trying to imply that sub numbers only fell after LFD release. That’s twice now.

[Truthspeaker-earthfury]

Just fyi Bloomsday is a huge dip who has been trolling for a while so either ignore it or don’t take it seriously. Just tell it to go back to retail like it spammed all year.

[Timay-pagle]

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

Sure, but LFD didn’t help the game. The game stopped growing after it was released.

That still doesn’t equate to it being RDF’s fault. (Pssst… the chart shows it growing in the last quarter of wotlk and stops growing in cata where it begins to sink)