You gave the alliance a quest that grants them raid tier gear to kill horde, which they can do in a raid party. At the same time, horde cannot complete their assault quests in a raid party. WTF and why??!!
What you have done was encourage alliance to form raid-sized parties to grief horde in 5 man groups or less. It’s pretty F’d up when I see a handful of lvl 115 alliance backed by 20 other alliance cherry picking horde, while horde are punished for countering with their own raid sized group.
I’m all for PvP and horde vs alliance, but when you encourage 40 man raids to crush 5 man parties, you’ve lost my support. I got home from work to try an complete 5 simple quests. It took me 2 hours. If your answer to making factions fair is to literally punish one faction for forming raid groups while rewarding the other one, then I’m glad this game is dying.
Man, it’s only fair that we get the 10% buff throughout the expansion. It’s not cool that they now have an advantage over us. It’s only cool when we camp the other faction, not the other way around. — Says every hypocrite on the forums.
Ain’t saying that gear isn’t a bit ridiculous but - just turn it off man.
Doesn’t really change the fact that there are both Horde and Alliance raid groups running around killing each other. Like I said in my previous post - the ones who complain about things such as that are just hypocrites.
It’s okay for them to do it, not for it to be done to them though.
This is about gear; this is about how blizzard encourages wpvp. I’m all for the alliance being rewarded more than horde for completing the quest. BUT when blizzard makes it so horde cannot complete the assault quests in a raid party, and at the same time, encourage alliance to form raid parties to complete quest, my support is gone.
I don’t care if alliance get’s a 100% bonus for completing world quests in wpvp mode…as long as they do it with parties that are comparable. A 40 man group being permitted to steam roll horde in 5 man groups, is beyond leveling the playing field.
The elite quests from Assaults can be completed in a raid group on either side - at least that was my experience just now on 2 Alliance and 2 Horde characters. I do not believe the normal quests from Assaults can be completed in a raid group but I did not try today.
This week’s incursion has Alliance escorting a big slow quest mob, farming mobs right next to a Horde-friendly untargetable that chain-spawns root-spamming guards with 900k HP and a leash radius of about half the fricking zone, and before we can start the last leg of it we have to wait for NPC RP next to a guardless neutral flight path. If Horde can’t pull an edge out here, I’m sorry, you are completely hopeless.
I agree alliance deserve a buff. I’m even okay with them getting twice the loot. The problem I have is that they can form 40 man groups and still get loot, while horde can’t.
I miss the days epic pvp battles in the tol barad quest area or fight’s in timeless isles, but this isn’t the same thing.
To my knowledge, the quests can’t be completed in a raid. I’m sure it used to be that way though but I am almost 99% sure that isn’t the case anymore. They’re forming raids to, you know, PVP. This is just players wanting to have big open world fights and using incursion hotspots as a catalyst to start a scrap.
No. No we can’t. Overwhelming Odds does not track progress in a raid as of the second week of 8.1. The elite WQs are literally the ONLY thing we can do in a raid that gives rewards, just like you.
Not upset at all. I just spent 30 minutes beating on them for my 25, and they weren’t even camping Umbric tonight.
I have done this (grouping up several 5-mans) on both factions since the start of BfA. It’s normal. It’s organized WPvP. Nobody can complete the quest in a raid. We ran into a massive raid-sized Horde group tonight while questing. We died some. They died some. It was FUN.
They don’t. We can’t complete PvP quests from raid groups. It was enabled for the first week, and I’m pretty sure that was an accident because they fixed it immediately.
Normal quests cannot be completed in raids. I’ve been forced to leave raid groups to complete them, and usually that winds me up getting killed by a bunch of angry alliance…which is fine, if it were the same situation for alliance. But when blizzard makes a specific quest (only for alliance) to kill horde for a 370 piece of gear, while horde doesn’t have the same quest, something is wrong.
I am in no way against alliance being rewarded more than horde. Give the alliance a songflower buff of 15% and a 30% quest reward increase, but don’t encourage them to make 40 man groups, while horde cannot even complete basic quests while in a raiding party.
I know that yesterday during an Assault I was unable to complete any normal quest while in a raid group. I joined to kill an elite but had to drop to complete a concurrent regular quest n the same area. I have always had to do that.