No it isn’t.
All it takes it you using common acronyms for telling people to shut up and you getting reported.
Just say “I am a cheater who buys gold and supports bots” and be done with it.
If you want to see bots go try to do the nessingwary quests in STV, the bear/lion/spider killing quests in Hillsbrad on the Anniversary server. There’s bots in every zone and they are very easy to spot. They don’t move like players, they don’t path like players, they don’t engage mobs like players.
Or do you think it’s normal to have level 20 Alliance grinding bears in Hillsbrad being completely unresponsive to any player interaction with their default named pet and gibberish character name (Ec: Hghjsfjdsfl;s)?
Completely unresponsive to the point that you kill their pet and all they do is res it, feed it, and then stand there while you kill it again.
No attempt to defend themselves.
No attempts to move away.
Nothing except standing there letting you kill the pet, ressing it, and feeding it over and over again for 30 minuets.
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What good would that do?
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Yes, seeing those random bot names is so meaningful.
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I would rather have the gold I spend in the Auction House go to another player in game rather than a bot. Anecdotally, I’ve heard guild members struggle to farm certain herbs/mining nodes due to bots camping know spawn locations. Just my 2 cents.
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For someone who throws around terms like:
you really ought to examine your own intent here, and maybe even reread our conversation.
I’m skeptical that botting is as big of a problem for legitimate players as is being made out in this thread, and by you, and I am asking for clarification and/or repeatable steps to verify whatever legitimate play disruption you or others are experiencing.
Maybe I, and others could go and verify such things and we’d have a constructive thread where we work together as a community to identify issues and try to solve them rather than just wasting time calling people names for asking questions.
OK, thank you. I haven’t seen bots in every zone myself, so that’s not exactly what I am personally experiencing, but I’m still curious as to what issues that would be causing you.
No, I don’t think this. When I was grinding shredder mobs in SoD, there was a rogue who was running around, stealing tags. At first I thought it was just a rude (in my culture at least) player who was playing selfishly, but it continued to happen, and I started to notice the pathing was strange.
I don’t remember the precise details, as this was about a year ago now, but it became quite evident to me that this was a bot. I right click reported, and I believe the next day I received an in-game mail thanking me for my report.
As that was a grind I enjoyed, because I could grind mobs for items to sell on the AH, there was a vendor that occasionally had some decent plate shoulders that went for like 10g (which was a lot-ish then), and there was some pretty fun WPVP in the zone, so I spent an hour or two/daily there.
Anyway, we can definitely agree that botting is cheating, and as it is against the EULA, accounts that are botting should be actioned. However, I’m skeptical that Blizzard is not taking action, as well as the extent to which botting actually negatively impacts legitimate play.
For me, I’d much rather action be taken against players who throw in BGs, as that negatively impacts my own personal play. I hate it. I hate it more than anything in WoW, and it is also against the EULA. It’s one of the main reasons I stopped playing SoD.
This could be true, but I’d point out that it could also be true if other legitimate players are doing the same.
Few of my guild members did this very thing just outside the entrance to Blackrock Spire. Every 15 seconds without fail a mage would pop out of the portal and get ripped up. They even had a kill count going.
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Earlier in Classic(before TBC classic) we had problems with botters fly hacking around EPL under the terrain looting chests and herbs before anyone could even get to the zone.
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Yeah. There were some issues in ZG also, and there were even times when you could login to the starting zones on almost any of the realms and see several very obvious bots following the same pathing.
The last one didn’t last that long.
And I’m skeptical that the changes to prevent some of the bot pathing in instances, etc. had more of a positive impact to legitimate play than a negative one. Sure, it prevented some botting in the short-term, but long-term it also completely killed a lot of legitimate play.
And what is the net benefit to the players and/or community? That’s more what I’m getting at.
Yes, removing bots because it’s cheating is probably a good thing, but changing the game to prevent bots from doing a particular thing in ways that may not even impact the number of bots, but does impact legitimate play might not be a good thing.
First gaslighting, now sealioning?
Like, seriously, I’m indifferent to the subject of bots but the pattern of your posts here is textbook.
Nobody is saying to change the game they’re asking blizzard to actually enforce their rules without us having to report everything.
They’re a multi-billion dollar company.
They can afford to pay a half dozen people per server region to actively police the servers for bots. They don’t even need to read the chats.
Literally just fly around looking for bots.
Clearly their banwaves aren’t working because we still have bots.
You mean ones with profanity? Yeah, for most people it’s easy to not curse like a petulant child. Grow up.
Anniversary servers had gold capped gold sellers week 1.
Source.
They posted about it on g2g
Think about that. Gold capped week 1 from raw gold vendering.
You can try, but I am not pretending to be on your side. I’m not trying to be your friend. I don’t like you. I don’t like your opinions. I’m just trying to be accurate and seek truth. I am not on your side and I am not your friend.
Maybe. I guess if you are saying (this isn’t what you are saying, but maybe it’s what you are attempting to imply or suggest) that you are suddenly seeing an outsized number of bots, and if that is indeed the case, then perhaps there is suddenly a large influx of bots, and Blizzard will address this. I would suspect that it won’t continue for much longer, if that is the case.
I’m skeptical of your claim that:
is a worthwhile investment of resources, or that you have any reason for believing it to be either. From my point of view, it is a rather uninformed statement based mostly on ignorance of the issue, but I’d be very happy to be enlightened as to how incorrect my point of view is in this case.
Anyway, for whatever it is worth, I am not trying to say that I agree with you or want to prove your point or that I like you. I don’t care about you. I’m not on your side. I’m merely skeptical of what you are saying and I believe it to be ignorant, lacking thought, lacking evidence, kind of mostly fabricated, and frankly just a waste of time, but I’m willing to at least indulge it to the point of seeing if you can ever come up with any answers to legitimate questions, but so far you haven’t seemed to be able to.
Yes bots should be banned. No, they aren’t really doing anything that harms legitimate play. No, there is no need to invest additional resources to ban them as it certainly wouldn’t result in any ROI. Or at least that’s what I think.
Good luck out there.
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You clearly don’t know many adults if you don’t think people in the real world cuss.
Adults that act like petulant children with zero discipline do. You’re really not making a great case for yourself here lol.
You deserve your chat restriction.
I was arguing with a cheater(Gold Buyer).
Both the CS person I talked to in the CS forum and the GM who responded to my ticket supported what I said.
The GM just said “Keep your cool next time.”
Don’t care, you acted like a child and did not have any control over your actions or language. This is something that is VERY easy for anyone that is old enough to play this game.
I’m sorry I don’t like cheaters.
Agree. There’s virtually zero chance AI can’t be used to detect bots in 2024. They are SO incredibly obvious that it’s actually hilarious.
Blizzard is lieing to us.
They tolerate bots because it makes them money, plain and simple. They do ban waves every 6 months so they can milk 6-months of subs first. They know if they do the waves more often, it risks them becoming unprofitable, and they definitely don’t want that. They WANT bots to continue long-term profitability because it makes them money too.
That’s all bad, but what makes it worse is they lie to our faces about it. It’s so insulting.
We’re not stupid, Blizzard. I hope you continue to lose the respect and trust tour customers have given you since the 90s.
You deserve to fail.
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i’d reduce his penalty to 1 day for posting in the wrong channel, but add another 20 days for selling boosts.