Again 100% agreed.
To be fair, at the time there wasn’t a logical reason to think Blizzard was working on Classic. They really hadn’t given us any reason to think that they were.
I hoped for sure, but I didn’t honestly think it was happening.
It’s just that there not being a reason to think that something is happening isn’t the same as a guarantee that it’s not happening =P
Well, considering the wall was mostly made up of Blizzard’s own “no’s”, I can see why it was made in the first place and why the majority of people actually thought it had some weight.
And it did, actually. For a time.
But now we’ve got Classic and we can look back at that cringefest and laugh our Azeroths off.
I don’t doubt they’re real people with real excitement.
I just doubt they’re fully in touch with 100% of the facts from the start.
I suspect there is a bit of a treasure hunt involved in the project, and that leads them to make certain claims that are not always entirely true.
Honestly the only member of Blizzard I do not trust is Ion. But… he used to be a lawyer. So… yeah. I may be biased.
This is absolutely correct.
Laeric you were never wrong logically speaking for posting it. Blizzard stating what they will do and will not do is simple as that. Informing others of strict words by the devs is reasonable!
The only negative is that there were so many doing it and using it like an argument against those that just wanted to disagree with Blizzard, thus it became a tool for silencing pro-vanilla players.
Everyone is bias, it’s the people who say they’re not bias that are truly ridiculous and the most bias.
The guys like you and I, at least you can have a real argument with an and attempt to make a legitimate case for your point of view.
I think the troll dressed like a side of beef will probably try to step on you for saying that.
But I appreciate what you said. <3
Broken… come on…
Every day, you find new things to complain about. You barely post anything positive. Anything Blizzard does never satisfies you.
First it was the subscription. You said you would leave if they combined the subscriptions. They did that. You’re still here.
Everything you complain about and say is wrong, after Blizzard does it, you are still here. No matter what Blizzard does, you seem to never be happy. But Blizzard doesn’t need to do 1.5 AV or add a separate subscription or a box fee, because you’re still going to be here.
Oh god no don’t summon it back! Please!
Even the Nos guys admitted that they made everything up (mostly) for the 1.5 version of AV. Blizz said themselves that classic isnt theirs to change, they are just re-releasing it. Can they code 1.5, yes, do they want to…probably not.
So we were speaking of something largely different and the video for the recent Blizzcon was linked to show something and when going over the video it was caught around the 6minute marker that the developer stated the way they worked on patches actually caused them to lose data as they added patches onto the game during Vanilla.
Now not saying 1.5AV coding does not exist, but this could be a threat to its existence.
Even the Nos guys admitted that they made everything up (mostly) for the 1.5 version of AV. Blizz said themselves that classic isnt theirs to change, they are just re-releasing it. Can they code 1.5, yes, do they want to…probably not.
So now that you can potentially believe 1.5 exists, why would a PS completely make up Korrak and the. Tower bosses etc. My memory may be failing but I do remember the positioning of Korrak and the mini bosses. It’s damn accurate.
Where did they get the art assets for them and how did they get it so close.
If you follow the logic Blizz has the assets and chooses not to build 1.5 even though 90% of the people on this forum want 1.5.
I have my own conclusion on their agenda.
This also poses the other important question as too the actual reasoning for 1.12. I remember it being a poor representation. If that Is true why would they choose the lowest common denominator. It could be that it requires the least effort.
If they want minimal effort who’s agenda are they following. I think the content roadmap was decided months ago. They don’t want any of our recommendations on this content.
I note they extended the release schedule based on this, but fundamental game mechanics (threat, raid nerfs/warrior dominance) are more impactful that adding a few months in.
Broken… come on…
Every day, you find new things to complain about. You barely post anything positive. Anything Blizzard does never satisfies you.
First it was the subscription. You said you would leave if they combined the subscriptions. They did that. You’re still here.
If however Blizzard goes with AV 1.12 (the same BG that is on the PSs), then they will indeed lose subs. Myself included. I do not want a quick AV where little if any PVP occurs and there is no time for the BG objectives and mechanics are utilized. I do not want a huge potential part of my endgame to be ruined.
My bold for highlight. Clearly a serial whinger and ultimatum slinger.
There’s a lot of adults here who constantly threaten to never play Classic if they don’t get their way. They constantly go back on those threats and claim “well I changed my mind.” That is of course, until the next thing they don’t like comes along and they make the same empty threat.
There’s a lot of adults here who constantly threaten to never play Classic if they don’t get their way. They constantly go back on those threats and claim “well I changed my mind.” That is of course, until the next thing they don’t like comes along and they make the same empty threat.
People were doing this during vanilla , TBC, WOTLK, etc too. They eventually did quit, once they got sick of every single awful decision Blizzard made after they made far too many for year after year, expac after expac.
Now they have their chance for a truly epic game and history is repeating itself with Blizzard doing what Blizzard does best, ruining every game they’ve touched for the past 15 years.
People were doing this during vanilla , TBC, WOTLK, etc too. They eventually did quit, once they got sick of every single awful decision Blizzard made after they made far too many for year after year, expac after expac.
Well, doesn’t look like you’re one of those people.
Blizzard doing what Blizzard does best, ruining every game they’ve touched for the past 15 years.
How is Blizzard ruining the game?
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Loot trading? Really, I can’t see that being a huge issue. One of the big attractions of Classic is the community. Run guild groups, or with people you know, to lessen any concerns you may have about being ninja-looted. Vanilla server communities were pretty small and will be again, I can’t see it being a deal breaker of an issue considering the time investment to get one’s character to 60.
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Sharding? Nothing has been confirmed yet. Sure, I’m not a fan of it but I also recognise that there is an issue to be solved with the so-called “tourists”. I do think it’ll work for starting zones but I concur with those who are worried that it might persist into the future. Give 'em an inch, they’ll take a mile sort of thing.
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1.12 AV? Come on, I’m sure there are things in Classic that you’re looking forward to more than playing AV. If that’s all you want then you’re not a true Classic fan, IMHO. You can get your 1.5 AV fix ‘elsewhere’.
I was heavily invested in WoW in 2005/2006, I was an officer and main tank for a guild all through 2006 and sunk a boatload of time into the game. So I feel like I have some really fond memories of the game that I would love to relive. But the things above (except for sharding in later stages of the game) are not deal-breakers to me and I don’t see how these things are ‘ruining the game’. Everything else is looking pretty good, is it not?
1.12 is literally ruining 1 entire form of content and end game for a lot of people.
There will be more things ruined, don’t worry. Blizzard are experts.
1.12 is literally ruining 1 entire form of content and end game for a lot of people.
There will be more things ruined, don’t worry. Blizzard are experts.
Quality response. Judging by your achievements you didn’t do any PVP in Vanilla anyway.