Once more for clarity:
We have been asking for earlier version of AV since the nerfs began during vanilla. We have discussed this at length and critically for well over a decade. Your calling it “paranoia” is just as tone deaf as the ones who made this decision.
I’m not sure how aware you are of this, but just in case you aren’t… the “Wall of No” was an actual thing back before Classic’s announcement. It was a wall of text that was copypasta’d in every single thread asking for pre-TBC servers, consisting of a collection of Blizzard’s own responses to the subject at the time it was written.
Obviously the Wall of No is no longer valid, but some people around here are just damn salty and won’t let go.
Hell I’m tempted to post it on this forum just so we can all look at it, throw our heads back, and laugh.
So yeah coming into this thread and some of the arguing actually got my attention this time and decided to decipher it.
That likely came off a little harsh, although I do agree that our memories are easily fooled into thinking accuracy thus a 1.5 AV on a PS can easily fool someone to thinking it is accurate. The slight harshness might have been misread and taken wrongly by Broken.
Ad Hominem responses never help. Raising the level for how aggressive the conversation can become. And while I DO agree that people who used the wall of no were completely, utterly wrong for it and bandwagoning which just made things worse for those of us requesting for vanilla servers, people make mistakes. Laeric admitted he was wrong for that time. People can change their opinions.
There however is a common issue with people asking for vanilla servers before it was widely accepted and their harshness towards those who either had not requested or had even taken an offensive position. That being a perceived over-estimation of their opinion’s value. Just because we were asking longer does not make us right, what does help us is unity of the majority in wanting one particular goal to be met. i.e. no changes crowd. I too am guilty of this issue in the past.
Also you speak as if you represent more people. You need to better your wording as it comes off as if you are trying to falsely increase the weight of your own opinion. “We” “Us” etc. No. It is “There have been multiple players whom requested for this” “There is a good number of players whom disagree” Problem for that is it then opens up to them easily saying “well where are the others then?”
Simply, use hard facts, good reasoning and critical thinking to make your point stand out stronger and firmer on your own without relying on the idea of others supporting you or not. This reliance on the idea that there are others supporting you, when they are either not being represented well or just not here at all, makes you look bad to some people and encourages more argument.
You’ve already been corrected on this but just reinstating it. Wall of No was a legitimate thing. It was saved by MANY anti-classic forumers who would spam threads asking for vanilla servers with it and it was freaking long and annoying. This often caused said threads to be deleted or locked down. So no, it’s not a “10 year old” thing, it’s an internet wow forum only meme if anything.
Also him replying to every opposing post is to be expected. It only means he is likely intent on getting his opinion heard and feels just in doing so.
I am just clearing the field par say. Giving my own, outsider view with critical thoughts. And INB4 “Why bother type so much blah blah”
I am an upcoming writer who writes 5k words between 2.5-4hrs, a debater personality type that enjoys debates and communicating in this format and even if no one reads this I enjoyed typing it.
To be fair, though… vast majority of that stuff suffered from being announced too early in the development process.
I get Blizzard loves being a hype machine but maybe they should take a page from Bethesda’s playbook and only announce games when they’re close to finalized.
I mean really… you see the excitement and hype they have on stage at BlizzCon. They are not trained or paid actors, they can’t fake that sh*t. And maybe this is my Asperger’s kicking in and making it hard to tell, but I don’t get the sense that they’re being anything less than genuine with us every time they speak.
Hell, just go to Sakaar’s (Ythisens) Twitch streams and ask him about his time at Blizzard. Guy was laid off and he still has nothing but good things to say. I know if I was laid off and I thought my workplace was a soulless trash heap, I’d voice that opinion to the heavens.