Blizz you gotta separate out XP-Off Twinking

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

Does playing longer/more make you a better player all the time? Of course not, there are always exceptions. But like I said earlier, like with anything in life, the more time you put into something the better you should be at it.

How, in all of anyone’s wisdom, is killing someone in a single global justified to any experienced PvPer? That’s exactly the sort of thing typically crusaded against, especially when it was actually fairly common in endgame. But when it comes to twinks, it’s suddenly justifiable? Gear should NOT factor in that badly in what isn’t even progression content.

[Scharzula-earthen-ring]

also, when it goes back to 2008, thats when they started achievements. Previous exp does not get accounted for.

[Scharzula-earthen-ring]

Jugga has no problem looking at it.

[Eilane-kilrogg]

Nobody killed you in a global, so if you could stop spewing that it’d be swell. You know what I did in that 2nd to last EoTS that I posted against the twinked Dwarf Hunter? I had him on focus because he kept tunneling me, I play at max range from the person I’m targeting - and when he targeted me? I back up like 5 yards. And it kept cancelling out his aimed shot.

Hey look, I outplayed a twink while in heirlooms

also, when it goes back to 2008, thats when they started achievements. Previous exp does not get accounted for.

HKs most certainly got accounted for.

htt ps://i.imgur.com/nXK4rvv.jpg

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

Nobody killed you in a global, so if you could stop spewing that it’d be swell.

" to global someone would mean to kill them in 1 global cooldown (1.5 seconds without haste)."

You know what I did in that 2nd to last EoTS that I posted against the twinked Dwarf Hunter? I had him on focus because he kept tunneling me, I play at max range from the person I’m targeting - and when he targeted me? I back up like 5 yards. And it kept cancelling out his aimed shot.

Hey look, I outplayed a twink while in heirlooms

So, my solution to defend myself as a healer is to flee my group and not heal them because of the severely OP twink-geared hunter. 250k HKs would’ve taught me that?

[Welfarê-silvermoon]

Are random BGs and random epic BGs at max “separated” to you?

Nope, they are simply at…Max level. And you even indicated that you still want to dangle a carrot to entice them to play with the twinks so not only do you want us to be separate but subject us to even more whining due to 3x the exp to be had.

No thanks, I’d rather Blizz work on balance.

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

Also, before calling my experience into question again, compare our Arena achievements.

2.2k here. https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/wyrmrest-accord/kai/achievements/player-vs-player/arena

Quality > Quantity.

[Eilane-kilrogg]

Yes, more time playing would have taught you to be observant and you would have learned by that time to stay at max range so you could hop back 5-10yds to avoid things like Greater Pyro, Chaos Bolt, Aimed Shot, etc. It’s like playing a Hunter in vanilla, you had to learn to sit in the dead zone so Warriors couldn’t intercept you.

[Scharzula-earthen-ring]

you do not need to break the link if you use the </> perforated text option.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/earthen-ring/scharzula

[Eilane-kilrogg]

Hey man, congrats! You got your 300 win achievement years before breaking 2200 and I got my 100 wins years after getting 1750!

Now lets talk about how relevant this is to the discussion and how you’re grasping at straws here.

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

Now lets talk about how relevant this is to the discussion and how you’re grasping at straws here.

That’s a bit odd to say, since you were the one bringing PvP experience up in the first place. He’s just continuing the line you started.

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

Hey man, congrats! You got your 300 win achievement years before breaking 2200 and I got my 100 wins years after getting 1750!

Now lets talk about how relevant this is to the discussion and how you’re grasping at straws here.

You’ve been constantly calling my experience into question – quite off-topic in itself, actually – and I’ve just disproved it. Arguably, I’ve proven I care more for performance-related PvP rather than just farming HKs.

[Eilane-kilrogg]

Now lets talk about how relevant this is to the discussion and how you’re grasping at straws here.

That’s a bit odd to say, since you were the one bringing PvP experience up in the first place. He’s just continuing the line you started.

I brought up things related to random battlegrounds, you know the things where you run into twinks. Notice how that’s literally the only thing I brought up?

[Scharzula-earthen-ring]

@Kai, I admire your perseverance. I must admit I do not always remain as calm as you. I find it very frustrating dealing with people that simply will not see the evidence. They are willfully ignorant. Right now they are just doing what they do best, pvp, except this is forum pvp. They just will not admit to defeat.

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

@Kai, I admire your perseverance. I must admit I do not always remain as calm as you. I find it very frustrating dealing with people that simply will not see the evidence. They are willfully ignorant. Right now they are just doing what they do best, pvp, except this is forum pvp. They just will not admit to defeat.

It’s been invigorating, I’ll say that! But I might start peeling paint off the walls if I talk to 'em too long.

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

The people that have more experience in PvP are doing…better?

I don’t presume anything, I simply look at your character wide achievements. I see that you’ve been playing since 2008 and hit your 50k HKs achievement 2 years ago. I look at Jugaa and see that she’s had her 250k+ HK achievement for way too long and I’ve had mine since whenever they merged it account wide. That just tells me that we’ve played more / played longer, ergo we’ll have more experience.

You brought up PvP experience and playtime twice though?

[Oäk-bloodhoof (Oäk)]

Sounds like both of you should leave then

[Eilane-kilrogg]

Willfully ignorant? Jugaa has provided more screenshots of her own that everyone else in this thread combined. But since she doesn’t agree with the stance of people they disregard her 60+ screenshots of randoms while leveling. Ironic.

The people that have more experience in PvP are doing…better?

I don’t presume anything, I simply look at your character wide achievements. I see that you’ve been playing since 2008 and hit your 50k HKs achievement 2 years ago. I look at Jugaa and see that she’s had her 250k+ HK achievement for way too long and I’ve had mine since whenever they merged it account wide. That just tells me that we’ve played more / played longer, ergo we’ll have more experience.

You brought up PvP experience and playtime twice though?

Sure did! Brought up the correlation between playtime and HKs ( primary source being randoms for 99% of people ) and ability. I’m not sure that I can break it down any further to make it easier to comprehend

[Welfarê-silvermoon]

I find it very frustrating dealing with people that simply will not see the evidence

Right back at you.

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

Personally I get a lot of worth out of these arguments.

When I normally argue, it’s much, much more hostile and aggressive. I can’t do that here if I want to continue getting my points across.

Arguing without getting combative is a skill I like honing.