Blizz you gotta separate out XP-Off Twinking

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Greyhide, Mauden, Scharzula are the only ones who really keep these threads active along with me, Kang, Myninja and Oak

[Jadei-shadowsong (Jadei)]

Not all levelers complain about twinks. We don’t see enough of them for it to be an issue. The ones who do have other options.

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

This is genuinely getting tiresome to see. You can’t honestly say that new people aren’t coming to the forums specifically to complain and talk about this, especially considering this thread alone has a few of them, yet time and time again it’s touted that it’s just “the same handful of people” talking about it.

There is no purpose to saying that other than to dismiss or belittle opinions.

i wish i didn’t need to quote myself

[Oäk-bloodhoof (Oäk)]

Yeah that’s pretty accurate

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Again, once season 2 started, there was 2-3 weeks where no twink threads were even made, or bumped.

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

almost like people were busy on their max level toons?

[Greyhide-khadgar (Greyhide)]

Greyhide, Mauden, Scharzula are the only ones who really keep these threads active along with me/Kang and the rest of my alts.

There are plenty others, I’m afraid.

[Tosko-scarlet-crusade]

That might also be the reason for why ques are longer then they were during the pre patch, ppl are busy with their max level toons.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Possible, or it’s possible these threads are active with just the same handful of us.

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

Game’s done.

https://gyazo.com/bdee9ebe25ff511a5ab248ee393d62aa

This isn’t coincidence like most defending the unseparation seem to want to try and paint it as. It’s been loss after loss after loss today. That one victory is the only one I’ve had in all my chain queueing. And they’ve not even been close games. And every screenshot I’ve provided shows twinks stomping others by a very significant margin.

[Tosko-scarlet-crusade]

Obviously lol, occasionally a new thread by some random will be made. they will post once or twice then never come back while we all keep it going for 100s of posts. Gives me something to do while I farm things though,

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

And again, gem stacking seems to be the culprit. Also ilvl 100 head, where is that from?

[Greyhide-khadgar (Greyhide)]

If I had not said “in before “your screenshot is photoshopped”” then you would have gotten that response from that one already. It’s a known problem and has been well documented. As mentioned, you can show all the evidence you want and it will not matter.

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

And again, gem stacking seems to be the culprit.

This is a correlation fallacy. Twinks use gems, of course, but using this method I could also attribute the blame solely in enchants and other matters. We’ve agreed that disabling such effects would help; however, it is not the sole solution.

Edit: Druid just hit 60, so out of the 50-59 bracket and won’t be able to provide more proof of the performance disparity there. I feel those I’ve provided should suffice well enough, though, and I know better than to think 60-69 would be any better.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Enchants are fine, it’s when you get the gear allowing many gems for certain stats to be stacked. And again, that head piece with 100 ilvl are on both the mage and warrior, not to mention both are already insanely good classes.

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

Edit: Druid just hit 60, so out of the 50-59 bracket and won’t be able to provide more proof of the performance disparity there. I feel those I’ve provided should suffice well enough, though, and I know better than to think 60-69 would be any better.

You’re in luck, it gets so much worse at 60. You’re now where entire sets of gem gear can be farmed, leading to massive stat differences between twinks and non-twinks.

[Kai-wyrmrest-accord (Kai)]

Oh, I’m all too aware. I won’t be doing BGs in this bracket.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

My Lock is sitting at 61. I’ll queue a few BGs tonight on her and take some SS’s of my own.

[Tosko-scarlet-crusade]

To eb fair you can buy the gladiator sets at 70 which have sockets and then buy the flat agi/str/intellect gems in hellfire for 4 gold each which is nice for even just lvling through dungeons and questing. Have to give up hierlooms for them though which is less xp.

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

There’s also gems in the honor vendor area in Stormwind/Org.

5mainstat/5crit IIRC.