Blizz to Shadow Priests

No, and that is a problem with class design as a whole. Classes should NEVER be designed around borrowed powers, it’s why we are where we are right now. Way to miss the point by the way, like I said, have a look at alpha to see how well shadow priests are performing :upside_down_face:

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The priest forums is populated by very few players and has become a safe haven for those who only want to talk to others that agree with them.

Shadow is in trouble and needs help. It was an issue at the beginning of BfA as well which is why I jumped to warlock for the expansion rather than continuing to play priest.

You have made several assumptions about me and they are unfair. I still play shadow priest and I understand pretty clearly its issues.

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Remove voidform and insanity.

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It has been in trouble ever since legion, voidform is one of the most unpopular designs ever and you know it. You just refuse to acknowledge WHY it is struggling so much, you know damn well it’s because of voidform, voidform has been IMPOSSIBLE to balance for blizzard ever since it’s inception, it was either incredibly overpowered or incredibly underpowered. Post on your shadow priest, let’s see how well you “understand its issues”. If I see nothing but world quests your point is moot because you don’t attempt the content where it’s design flaws start to shine through. If a spec is completely garbage in almost all forms of content by virtue of its design, that’s a design problem, not a numbers problem. Unless voidform is removed the spec will never be fixed.

Once again, you don’t even have alpha access, are the alpha testers who shed light on how grave shadow priests issues are on alpha also trying to form a “safe haven” to only talk to others that agree with them? Lmao, come up with something better :rofl:

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What do you mean shadow was bad in 8.0??? Are you meaning to tell me that literally never pressing your main mechanic(voidform) in an entire arena game is bad design???

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I almost forgot about that lolololol

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Don’t spread false information, He said he knows they are having issues but nothing planned at the moment. He then said they are on the radar.

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It was designed very well for what it did in Legion in conjunction with both Legendaries and its artifact weapon. It was amazing for me to play. It was in trouble once those legendaries and artifact traits were taken away and a less than desirable talent tree which left the spec few options to make it more flexible.

I haven’t refused to acknowledge anything. I know why it is in trouble and it cannot be pinned down on voidform alone as that mechanic was taken directly from Demonology before being reworked in BfA. So was it that bad then too? I hear often how much old warlock players pine for the mechanic back.

You show me yours and I will show you mine? Seem fair?

Tell me what you believe are its issues and I will comment on those directly. We might not agree on what we think are issues.

You wouldn’t but I imagine that wherever your goal posts are sitting right now will be moved.

Do you read what I post?

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LMAO I forgot about this. How utterly EMBARRASSING for Blizzard!! Watch them try to cling onto their dear voidform even though it’s forever confining the spec to be garbage for anything that isn’t raiding.

Explain to me how designing classes around borrowed powers is good design, just because it feels good in the moment doesn’t mean it will be good in the long if whatever is making it feel good is going to get removed.

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This is my priest. My “main alt” for BfA and was my main for Legion almost exclusively.

Every expansion you have talents the go away those are the same thing as borrowed powers by the way.

Not my fault you can’t accept that these “borrowed powers” are just extra talents and they are the BFA talents.

Oh that’s a big yikes bro :frowning: you can’t be linking the 451 toon after trying to make it seem like you played at a high level :frowning:

On a macro scale it isn’t. You know if you weren’t so busy trying to talk down to me you might find that we agree on several things but whatever right?

It’s like this conversation that you and I are having is one where you’re pretending that I am saying things that I haven’t even said.

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/sigh

Set your goal posts man.

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No they aren’t, designing classes around borrowed powers is not the same as designing classes around talents. You can’t be serious, voidform is not a talent, it’s a mandatory core of current class design.

Well I’m glad we can agree on that. I don’t see how they can fix voidform in its current state, its design is flawed to the core, shadow priest currently requires FOURTY SECONDS of ramp-up time to be able to do its highest damage potential. Name one other class that has such long ramp-up times to be able to perform their basic role. There is no other scenario other than fights that allow you that ramp-up time, in other words raid bosses.

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Well I’m just saying, playing casually it would take 3-4 days to get that ilvl… clearly you haven’t been playing your shadow priest outside of some low level dungeons so why are you trying to talk about the state it’s in?

This is the #1 problem with the forums. People who dont do the content they’re trying to make changes to.

*than. THAN.

I mained shadow in Legion. If you want to troll my logs go for it. They are there to view.

I even admitted to swapping to warlock for BfA because Shadow was in trouble because it lost the mechanics that made it work in Legion and now moving into SL it is happening again.

You still haven’t set your goal posts, so you tell me, after you troll my armory you tell me - what do I have to prove to you to say that I get to have say?

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Which content are you referring to? Is the only content that matters mythic raiding and high level M+? Any anyone who doesnt do that content cant possibly make an informed conclusion about the state of the spec?

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I want my character to feel powerful, not my disposable weapon.

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