In this we seem to agree that it’s a player-created problem. The question is, should Blizzard blindly bow to the demands of this faction of the player base, or should they learn from the past and alter the original Wrath experience in order to create an authentically superior game experience (even if it means some malcontents quit the game)?
Only if they can actually deliver a better experience, which so far they don’t seem capable of and none of the changes they’re making to wrath will improve anything.
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Its not “some”. Its the large majority of players. Now, yeah, those disliking it enough to quit might not be the majority, but hurting mid / low pop servers even more is just going to have rippling effects. I think Blizz is fine just keeping the raid loggers and those who’ll find ways around the inconvenience alongside the casuals, but I dont agree on it being in any way superior.
An active system that requires you to stay glued to browsing menus and parsing lists isnt inmersive or social, It removes the convenience of passively queing and forgetting, ties people’s time up instead of allowing them to sign up and is a poor middle of the road step that is neither fully simulationist to be immersive nor gamist enough to be easy and convenient. So it fails 2x.
Brian Birmingham paid a guy to dress up like Thrall to come to my house and kick my dog. Then he said something like, “we’re taking humans out of wrath”.
RDF came with patch 3.3.0 - we are getting patch 3.3.5 and retail tools from Wrath classic launch, therefore it should be in classic launch.
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Launching the retail expansion 2-3 months after Wrath launch…
why not just make a Toggle to turn off features you guys “think” the community might not want? So that the portion that DOES want the features can still use them?
It’s going to be called the group screening feature.
Playing an undesirable class? Reject
Ilvl a couple points short? Reject
Don’t have the correct achieves? Reject
Logs not available? Reject
Not willing to pass on all gear? Reject
Had a happy meal for lunch? Reject
Yea, sounds so very social, can’t wait …
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They probably will have to go afk suddenly to run to the bathroom, so that part might be valid.
But yes, it’s going to be a horrible process that will drive away the masses of players. It already does in TBCC. And it’ll be far worse in Wrath when players know Blizz had an authentic option to deal with this…and intentionally rejected it.
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Sounds like TBC Classic…
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If you bring wendys spicy nuggets to the group its an auto accept from me every single time
I will figure out a way to justify to the rest of the group why a lvl 12 is being brough to 25 man icc
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please provide server name, times you play and amount of spicy nuggets per run as well as preferred sauces, Shadowmorne isn’t gonna farm itself.
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Lol dude best reply ever
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The people talking about how great it’s going to be have no idea how the tool gets used in actual in game setting.
And super deliciously ironic part is that unlike LFD everyone will actually have to use it.
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Blizzard must not read these threads or they would be on red alert adding RDF right now.
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They avoid the forums with a 10-foot pole. 
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Wrath isnt new content. So they want to do it differently. Cant really fault them for it.
/shrug
Given that the entire purpose of this Classic experiment, is for them to not do it differently, because what they changed in successive expansions is what turned people away…
Hell yeah we can fault them for it.
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You can criticize them based off your own personal standards but its still their IP. Might as well be relieving yourself into a strong breeze if you know the saying. They probably have a reason to want to go in this direction.
We could get all crazy and despair or we could say who gives a crap.
I know which way Im leaning.
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If we wanted to play Vanilla/Classic, we’d still be in it, Clowns.
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