Blizz should just tell us which specs they never want pvp viable

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@Exalter-malganis

You know, a lot of people say only a few specs are viable in PvP, but honestly? Every spec in WoW can work if you know how to play it and build your comp right. Blizzard has done a pretty decent job making sure each spec brings something useful to the table, whether that is burst, utility, survivability, or control. Even if you are not playing the flavor of the month, you can still climb if you focus on your spec’s strengths.

This is a sweet sentiment, but it’s not really true at all. You’re playing at a MAJOR disadvantage sometime depending on your spec. Can you make it work if you totally outplay people? Sure. “Building your comp right” is typically taking a underperforming spec, and playing it at the highest possible level with two people playing meta specs at the a very high level as well. This is what I see practically every time some R1 player limps a bad spec to glad.

@Exalter-malganis

Even if you are not playing the flavor of the month, you can still climb if you focus on your spec’s strengths. One of the biggest things people overlook is how important utility and crowd control are. Some specs might not have insane burst, but they bring great crowd control. Things like Cyclone from Balance Druids or Psychic Scream from Priests can completely turn the tide of a match. Those kinds of abilities help set up kills and give your team openings. You do not always need top damage if you can control the game.And honestly, you would be surprised how many off-meta specs actually work well in the right comps. Outlaw Rogue, for example, used to be kind of a meme in PvP, but now it can be really annoying to deal with because of its control and cooldown reduction.

Every spec has CC. Every spec has some amount of utility. This isn’t really saying anything outside of using your kit really well with a bad spec can still win games. Sure, but you would problem win more games easier if you were playing something stronger. A really good Outlaw rouge who manages to climb as Outlaw would probably do it faster and easier on a ret pally.

@Exalter-malganis

Viability depends on what kind of PvP you are doing, not just arena rankings. Solo Shuffle has also changed things a lot. Since you queue alone and get random teammates, it puts more emphasis on your personal skill rather than your comp. That is why you see specs like Demonology Warlock or even Devastation Evoker doing well in that format. You are not stuck waiting for the perfect team setup. You just play your spec the best you can and climb if you are consistent.Rated Battlegrounds are another place where every spec can shine. Some specs are actually preferred there even if they are not that strong in arena. Boomkins are amazing in RBGs because of their spread pressure and control. Guardian Druids and Vengeance Demon Hunters are great for flag carrying. Specs that might feel weak in 2v2 or 3v3 can be absolutely vital in organized battleground strategies.Also, once you start gearing up and really learning your spec, a lot of them start to feel stronger. Specs like Enhancement Shaman or Shadow Priest might seem underwhelming at first, but once you understand their pacing and get good gear, you see their potential.

Okay but we have to balance around SOMETHING. Being good in random bgs is fine, but SS is the most active form of PVP right now. That’s probably what they should be looking at when it comes to balance. Again, some specs can manage in super organized 3s despite not being good in general, but that has more to do with the player overcoming a disadvantage than the game being even close to balanced.

@Exalter-malganis

Every season you see high-rated players pushing with specs people said were bad. There is always someone figuring out a new way to make a spec viable, whether it is through talent choices, creative comps, or just outplaying the meta. With the right mindset and effort, you can make any spec work.

If a really skilled race driver won a Nascar race in a clapped out stock Honda Civic that wouldn’t mean it was a fair race. It would just mean he was an amazing driver.