Then why comment about it, they need to be a lot harsher on classes that make up like 30% of a ladder above certain rating. They should, IMHO, disable rating when it gets that bad and basically do a rollback.
Its a logical response but after how many seasons does this need to happen? What is a ptr? lol
it shouldnt be THAT off.
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Did Disc priest get a rework? Iām still missing a gap closer and stun to fear Druids and monks with.
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Blizzard never responds
we hate blizzard when they respond
lose lose =D
āoutlaw rogue and sub burst is still bustedā
Where does this come from? Pikaboo clips in 2s with viewers at low mmr? Dh,dk,ret,arms,fury, prot war,bm,ww,locks.mages,boomy sustain as much as rogues burst pve style so hard that even ccing is a waste of a global. But rogue keeps being brought up??
IDK, every disc that played ptr was like oh no disc will be unplayable, these changes suck
And then disc went and took everyoneās lunch money, soooooo the pvp data obtained from ptr is unreliable at best
Playing against it and watching rogue mains destroy people in stunlocks with insane dmg to boot.
These changes were decided a week prior, as they all are.
They have big meetings with the suits to decide what to do and it all needs to be voted on
Itās better they wait for most stuff as they have messed specs up all season from early tuning when things changed later in the season. The biggest thing imo is them just communicating that like they did here and letting people know āhey this is on our radar be patientā. Really feel like most would be ok with that. People just hate feeling like everything is a mess and they have no idea if anyone at Blizz HQ is even aware or cares.
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and then said changes basically will only happen when thereās a tournament after this week, yeah. Great.
thing is, i know blizzard is reading these forums.
but they are choosing to ignore us, as a power move.
Iāve seen some very inappropriate posts stay up here for multiple days before one of the outsourced mods finally decided to do the weekly check in and delete it. Highly doubt anyone that has any say over the game ever comes here.
Itās very unreasonable what are you talking about lol. The start of the season is so important. If your class is OP it gets ahead in mythic plus score and raid. And then changes come out 4 weeks later the other classes donāt get invited because not enough IO lol. Do you know how crappy it is for people playing a class like shadow priest right now haha.
Also what data are they talking about lol. The logs are publicā¦ You can clearly see the outliers on the top and bottom. Why is it so hard to aura buff for now and if they scale well just revert the aura nerf. Why does a class have to spend being crap for 2 months to just wait for scaling to kick in which will just bring them to par with classes already doing well.
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If everything is busted then nothing is busted eh?
Everything busted, everyone quits. Hence long queue times even at the START of a season that will get far worse.
This man gets it!
Wont ever be able to play test enough to get balance just right before releases of patches. But damnā¦
Do devs not even run a few keys?
They donāt really care that much about balance. They canāt or these kind of patches would happen once in a blue moon, and would be fixed week one.
Ohz set bonuses guys, canāts tells wid out em.
Kidding me?
Blizz has the data they know the damage numbers. They know what a 2 set will do they know what going from 2 set to 4 set will do. They probably have 2+ million heroic parses, 5+ million normal parses, millions of M+ runs, tens of thousands arena matches if not several hundred thousand.
Literally have 10 million PvE parses of one end game content or the other all showing the same trends. NOT ENOUGH!! andā¦ andā¦ we (the team that designed the set bonus and added them to the game) have no idea what they will do!
Going to need 30-40 million parses after everyone has set bonuses to figure this out. Meanwhile the bottom classes get hosed in PvE and PvP for 4-6 resets minimum if not 4-6 months, if not years to be honestā¦
Why does anyone give blizz excuses? As if balance is only a start of season/patch problem? It goes from not balanced 3-6 months after a patch, with several classes head and shoulders above while numerous classes are left in the cold, to somehow worse the next patch. With some of the same inferior specs left out in the cold again.
Not saying Ret is in a bad spot <----for all you 07 PTSDers out there.
This happens every season. Blizzard takes a month or so to balance stuff. During that time, if your spec is underperforming, you just have to suffer through it. Itās not a good experience. Itās like we should just come back later when things are fixed.
Even after a month, weāll still be asking for better PvP tuning.
I wish they could speed up this entire process. A month is a long time.
Are they also releasing OP reworked specs halfway through this season?
tbf, their response was tonedeaf
Ret was longer than a month, and far along into a season. So no.
āIāll be honest, this rings incredibly hollow when thereās a spec called Assassination absolutely dominating everything in raid by the widest margin weāve seen in an incredibly long time (and Sub still seeing play over that absolute monster of a spec on some fights). Or Havoc in M+. Or to a lesser extent Outlaw(M+)/BM(both). Those are critical and disruptive problems. Players are not stupid, they know they really really want to invite Havoc/Aug/Outlaw/BM to their keys because itāll make their lives infinitely easier with how broken those specs are.
If Augmentation hooks being broken is causing you so many problems, even internally, that itās preventing you from providing the tuning changes needed to make the game at least somewhat balanced, the spec needs a rework until it no longer causes this. Thereās 38 other specs in the game, 1 spec should not be allowed to jail all the others. Same goes for Power Infusion, Autumn and whatever else is poisoning the data (and making the game frustrating to play)
Waiting until after RWF is over before doing anything is also doing a disservice to the vast majority of players who are not involved in this race. In the past, when heroic week still existed, we at least got some changes on the transition from that to mythic week. Bring back heroic week if not disrupting RWF (who gear up characters from 0 to better than most HoF guild characters in a few days anyway) is such a priority.ā
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