I basically haven’t been able to do my Patron orders for the last 3 days because you keep giving me orders for Epic weapons that don’t provide a single Sanctified Alloy or Beast Fang. Like come on guys, the drop rate on the tinderbox to make the Sanctified Alloy is ABYSMAL. One of these weapons currently costs ~30k to make. Nobody’s wasting these precious mats on an NPC that’s awarding 70 gold and a handful of acuity.
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Having you grind the mats or spend money is the whole point of that system. It’s a money/time sink.
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It’s pretty stupid.
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It’s not though. It’s the catch-up mechanic for profession knowledge and acuity as a replacement for DF’s Dragon Shards. Your entire argument is dismissed by the fact that, very rarely, they WILL have the Patron provide all the mats.
I currently have a Patron order for an armour piece that provides the expensive mats. Except I can’t fulfill it because I have no points in armour smithing. It’s a busted system, plain and simple.
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I got one this week where it wanted me to supply Sanctified Alloy as a tailor. I can’t even make those. That’s an entirely different profession.
They should just bring back the profession quests we had in Dragonflight and ditch the stupid patron order system.
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I’ve been playing pretty much every day since launch, for multiple hours some days, because until today I was on a 2-week layoff.
Aside from the guaranteed tinderbox you get from either Hallowfall renown or the campaign quests, I have seen ONE drop.
I have been able to forge, on my own, 2 Sanctified Alloy. In 3 weeks.
Some of these weapons need 10. TEN.
Also, if you’re talking about the quests where gatherers hand in a handful of mats or crafters fulfill a certain number of commissions, those still exist, and it’s a boon because you can use the Patron orders to complete those quests if they give you something cheap to make like profession equipment. This system is strictly a replacement for Dragon Shards and it fails at that. Horribly.
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AFAIK they removed getting knowledge from having to farm obscure mob drops. Which is great, having to do your weekly farming with a wowhead tab open was lame.
However, because of this, you can only get your weekly knowledge outside of dirt piles/weekly quest if you’re lucky enough that one of the orders you’re given isn’t for an epic item that requires hundreds of thousands of gold to craft. I’d love to be wrong on this, but I’ve only seen knowledge drop from dirt piles so far and didn’t see anything about it on wowhead.
There used to be 4 profession quests. 1 was for mettle and 3 were for knowledge.
The 3 knowledge quests were complete 3 work orders, make a random item, and collect some things in the world.
Now there is just the 1 quest to complete 3 work orders and everything else was put into these horrendous patron work orders.
Yup I’ve only seen the knowledge come from the dirt piles, and never on this character. I have all the tomes from the Consortium, all profession treasures, and the tome from the City of Threads
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I thought patron orders were meant to make things easier compared to DF but it was much easier to do weekly profession quests in DF.
I’m glad of the patron orders because it’s an opportunity to craft without having to throw away the items I make, which is otherwise what I’d have to do.
I understand crafting professions are a pure sink and not intended to ever provide anything positive. That’s just how they design the game sadly.
Why would you throw them away instead of selling them on the AH?
Because I don’t like people with AH bots undercutting me by 1c so I can’t sell to an actual buyer, ultimately buying the item for 1/20th what it’s worth, and selling for 10x what it’s worth.
I would rather throw the item away, than recoup like 500g but still take a loss, and allow a merchanter to make 10k.
I hate to make one of those posts but the more I’m hearing about TWW the more I think it’s a blessing I got burnt out right before it launched, and I’ve only been playing Era since. Especially since I wasn’t fond of DF’s profession overhaul to begin with.
Unless you’re selling them for less than vendor value, you’re still getting more money than you are by literally just throwing them away. And I mean at that point just vendor them anyway? Or stockpile them to fulfill orders later?
That’s what I mean by throw it away.
I don’t think you can stockpile items to fill orders later btw. It has to be crafted right then and there.
It’s a system intended to encourage you to purchase gold so you buy the mats to get the points. That or sink your own time into doing it. Blizzard is ever so slowly inching their way into standard gacha game systems. Where they make things as inconvenient as possible to get you to buy the solutions to the problems they caused.
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Oh sorry I thought you meant, for example, selling the alloys instead of the armour. I get you now
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keep doing it blizzard, i find it hilarious that people get so bent out of shape over 10 acuity or 2 knowledge points. it’s easy to ignore (there was plenty of practice ignoring crap orders during DF) and wait a few days for a new set of orders to populate
Thanks for adding nothing to the discussion.